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13 Oct 2012 1:08 PM:

K 5ive - I am not sure who's opinion you think  is "mis-informed .    Everyone can only speak as they see things .

I do not have any  "  for or against " an independant Catalunya ......... it is not for me to choose .

It will , as a property owner ultimately affect me though .

I see this subject evolving daily , so any documentary could be up to date , or indeed not .

Barcelona is not the same as the part of the region I know ,  the views and beliefs there do differ .

So an exchange of views from around the whole is of interest to me ( and maybe others ) , so I for one welcome , and encourage all to put their views however well informed .

 

 



Thread: Expats in Catalunya. What if.....?

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12 Oct 2012 4:01 PM:

To be honest I am surprised it is not higher than 74.1 %

A public opinion poll is most certainly not a referendum , as people not wanting independence may also want to vote .

Whatever the outcome - it will need time to repair peoples goodwill .

 

 

 



Thread: Expats in Catalunya. What if.....?

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11 Oct 2012 2:49 PM:

 

I too read with interest , the thoughts of XZVMM3 .
I was slightly alarmed that XZVMM3 felt unsure of their future in Catalunya – but as I have yesterday returned from another visit to Catalunya , I am now not surprised .
In the 3 week gap between my visits , there has been an upgrade in the display of fervour , with even general street signage suddenly appearing in ONLY the local language , and previous Spanish speakers converting to Catalan .
I spoke with 4 different business owners ( of different countries of origin ) and all were of the same opinion regarding their unsure future in Catalunya .
Any discussion regarding currency , EU membership , infrastructure etc is purely speculation ,         
as no-one actually knows until any independence vote has been made and ratified ,                           
so of little merit at this time .
No Catalunian I spoke to was prepared to express an opinion openly , with a spooky feeling of an old school communist state where fear of being overheard by the wrong ears .
I somehow believe that come voting time though , reality will kick in , and most will vote with their heads rather than hearts .
I am interested to know how some of the other areas in Spain that have historically talked independence , see what is happening , and if there is any thinking of their own bid .

 

 

 



Thread: Expats in Catalunya. What if.....?

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30 Sep 2012 10:41 PM:

Not been on this forum for a while , but look at the weekly bullitin sent to me by EOS

This topic has spurred me to make a comment .I visited Catalunia in the 70;s and early 80's as a sprog , and was totally charmed by the Catalunians who couldnt get enough British culture (music , language & even clothing )

After 25 years away , I wasnt nieve enough to think that things wouldnt have changed , but man ....what a surprise !

All the slightly stifeling thirst for the outside , has been replaced by an even more stifeling need to display how Catalonian

( or in fact not ) they are ......or arnt ......

The consequence is that everyone has to speculate when engaging someone new should one say "Bon dia" or not .

Geting it wrong to a catalonian is either of no issue , or more likely...... a total forgetting of any other mutual languages or will to communicate .

I have a bar owning mate who is a polylingual expat Brit who prides himself in guessing which language to greet customers in just by the appearance of approaching customers . 

Getting it wrong to anyone would not be an issue , other than Catalonian , where he then expects a frosty reply .

The area is a great place , with some great people , but nobody truely speaks their mind openly just in case , which is sad .

Locals feel more akin to someone from Perpignan than anyone in southern spain ( but they also dislike the French )

Further south ( towards Barcelona ) they are far more relaxed about their Catalonian-ness , and as a result are far more engaging .

Independance , to me , would add.. or take away nothing ,

other than ...just another level of being ....for people to subscribe to........or not ........or both.....or none....

More complicated than it need be . Shame. 

 


 


This message was last edited by boomer on 30/09/2012.
Thread: Expats in Catalunya. What if.....?

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25 Jun 2011 12:06 AM:

Hey ...fence tennis !! what a great idea !!!

France to serve , Britain  returns ..........etc .....goes to to a tie breaker !!

Would knock the euro song contest into a cocked hat .

 



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