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09 Mar 2009 9:19 PM:

I completely agree with Roy. That is the approach I took to get my money back from Grupo Lar a few months ago. Go direct to the top and involve their shareholders for full embarrassment factor. DON'T rely on your lawyers! If you sit there waiting for them to do "the right thing", you will have a very long wait.

Good luck.

Ed.



Community thread: lar sol refunds

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25 Feb 2009 11:44 PM:

A contact of mine was at the Casa Toro site last week. In his opinion, there is no way the development will be completed by the end of June, which is the deadline. Having worked in the industry for many years, he thinks there may be as much as 9 months of work left.

The developer is telling everyone that it is on time and I suspect even encouraging lawyers to tell their clients the same, but I have serious doubts. My lawyers contacted me within an hour of me asking the developer about progress, which I find suspicious.

I suggest people contact the developer through their website www.malagahouse.com and ask them to send recent photos of all sides / views  f the development. I received some photos but they have only provided certain views to give the impression that work is more progressed than it is. I am trying to get some more from my contact.



Community thread: Photos of Casa Toro - 2 December 2008

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13 Feb 2009 1:28 AM:

Roy,

Take a look at the thread copied below. It has all of the contact details you need for Grupo Lar, including Luis Pereda's email address. I recommend you contact Mr Pereda directly, copying in his colleague Alberto Salamanca. A fax is less direct and easy for people to lose!

http://www.eyeonspain.com/Secure/MsgBrdsPosts.aspx?thread=13895&dev=E710&name=El%20Capricho%20De%20Dona%20Julia

This worked for me and I avoided a costly and time consuming litigation that my lawyers were trying to convince me was the only option left.

I got my money back plus legal interest, despite my contract stating I was entitled to 50% compensation. With the state of the Spanish market as it is and the number of property developers that are facing financial difficulties / bankruptcy, I was just happy to be reunited with my money and with the legal interest and favourable currency rate, managed to make a pretty decent return!

I would say the chances of you getting more than your money plus legal interest are zero, despite what any contract says and despite what lawyers such as Lawyers of Spain might tell you. It is a carrot to encourage you to go for the litigation, but is a red herring in my opinion. I would encourage you to cut your losses and try to get back your money plus legal interest, despite what you (and I) feel should be paid. Holding onto the hope of a payout of the sort of amount you are talking may end up with you getting nothing. If you make a realistic proposal to them, they are more likely to enter into discussions with you.

Happy to answer any questions if it helps you and others get your money back.

Good luck!

Ed.



Community thread: refunds

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07 Feb 2009 12:00 AM:

 Does anybody know if there are legal limits to the commissions that agents can charge on top of developer off-plan prices when selling to buyers? I have found out that a certain agent added €32,000 commission to properties priced by the developer at €83,000, giving a total price of €115,000. This is approx 40%!!

There must be laws against this sort of abuse to protect off-plan buyers?

Anybody know what consumer law says in Spain on the matter? Any success stories in getting compensation for such price inflation either through the courts or directly with the agent? Or getting the developer to reduce the agreed purchase price on completion?

Thanks

Ed.



Forum thread: Abusive agent commissions ... 40% !!!

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07 Feb 2009 12:00 AM:

Does anybody know if there are legal limits to the commissions that agents can charge on top of developer off-plan prices when selling to buyers? I have found out that a certain agent added €32,000 commission to properties priced by the developer at €83,000, giving a total price of €115,000. This is approx 40%!!

There must be laws against this sort of abuse to protect off-plan buyers?

Anybody know what consumer law says in Spain on the matter? Any success stories in getting compensation for such price inflation either through the courts or directly with the agent? Or getting the developer to reduce the agreed purchase price on completion?

Thanks

Ed.



Community thread: Abusive agent commissions ... 40% !!!

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