04 Jun 2008 3:47 PM:

You could speak to Pilar at San Jose. Her English is really good. The number is +34 902 209 210. I don't think anything is pointless! OK, well there are some pointless things you could do but speaking to San Jose probably isn't. Especially if you compare the information you receive with independent sources. Take Care

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30 May 2008 3:25 PM:

Georgia. I totally understand your point. I don't know if you know this but some people do have bank guarantees on Santa Ana...I'm not sure what the proportion is but there definitely were a number of bank guarantees issued (I have seen some of them). I do think that Santa Ana is a bit of a moot point. Having seen the licenses to begin works and the approved plan parcial allowed quite a lot of people to draw the conclusion that everything was OK. You would think that a council would not approve the building of foundations if they didn't intend to approve the rest! I do understand that some agents began selling on the site before this was even granted though but not all of us did. Of course, no one could predict that San Jose would apply to go into administration just before any of this was sorted out and the fact is, all we can do right now is go into "damage limitation" mode which is why this site is a good way of keeping informed and getting good legal contacts like Maria et al. Where we don't have the power to back track and cancel things that have already happened, we can at least retain the power of information!
I'm sure that this helps us all in protecting ourselves and our clients!

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30 May 2008 3:12 PM:

Sorry Alamred. I think you have made a mistake. I said that I was recounting something that I read in the Spanish press so I'm not sure where you get the idea from that I have made these things up. I thought that I had made this clear.  If you want to blame anyone for making things up, blame the paper I have translated from. http://www.laverdad.es/alicante/20080514/orihuela/albatera-plan-parcial-sierra-20080514.html
I have never sold property at Albatera. I was responding to a post that Georgia made which was asking what ever happened to it.


I believe that your complaints are being pointed in the wrong direction.
I have simply summarised a newspaper article in order to try and help people who may not have access to/understand the Spanish press.
If you don't like what you read, I suggest you don't read it.

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30 May 2008 2:52 PM:

I know. It did seem odd at the time to me too. I could only conclude that the town hall were partially issuing the license by doing this as you could not imagine that they would, as you say, allow a load of foundations to just hang around for archeologists in find in thousands of years.  It is undoubtedly a bureacracy issue rather than a logical sense issue. The two often don't go hand in hand.

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30 May 2008 2:39 PM:

Hi Georgia.

Don't worry about offending. It's better to retain some cynicism than to be too credulous! You don't however, have to believe me. One phone call to the town hall will confirm the information regarding Santa Ana independently of San Jose or any agents.

I will let you know the information that I have been able to find out about the Albatera development in the Spanish press.
  - The licenses are still pending approval.
 - The reason for this is an environmentalist issue with part of the land upon which the resort is to be built being "protected"
 - San Jose has been negotiating with the local council in order to make the project go ahead .
 - The kinds of things they are suggesting is to invest themselves into rehabilitating parts of these protected areas in exchange for licenses to build around them. In addition they are proposing "giving back" some of the land as a type of swap to the local council for recreation areas.
 - This is something pretty common in Spain. Developers will build a school or rehabilitate a church or provide a park for the town or village where they want to build in exchange for getting to build etc.
 - The Mayor  of Albatera has been quoted in the press as saying that as far as he is concerned the project will go ahead and he has given full support to the go ahead during his election campaign.

This is information as per the 14th of May and I couldn't find anything more recent than this.

I don't really know how to answer any of your other questions because at this stage any answer would be purely conjecture.
If I can help in any other way, please let me know.

By the way... I'm not sure what alamred means by "it's gone quite". Maybe you are alarmed and you think it's gone quiet?
And yes, some people have other things to do than reply to posts immediately so sometimes there is a delay. I'm not sure whose forgery department you were speaking about??


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