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23 Mar 2009 12:00 AM by Jann Star rating in Merseyside and Jardi.... 802 forum posts Send private message

 

We have received an email from the Condado Association with several attachments which appear to be various proposals for the next general meeting on 6th April. It doesnt appear to be from Sergio, and we havent heard from him yet.

Struggling to open the attachments- is it worth continuing to try to open them - anybody know? 

EDIT: Managed to get letter (CARTA) to open and its to Jose Hernandez  about what PW havent done as opposed to what their advertising said they would provide and what  the advertising continues to say it will provide even though current circumstances have caused delays and non builds. It also mentions the water salinisation plant not being built and concerns for the future water supply for CdA.  So its about that point that surfaced a few weeks back regarding the suggestion that PW is breaching advertising conditons.
Can't open other attachments.



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23 Mar 2009 8:54 AM by danseex Star rating in Los Naranjos J4 n253. 652 forum posts Send private message

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I am finding this confusing as well, as Sergio has done a sterling job but with 2 associations running it's a bit strange, I obviously want to support both as you would hope that they both have our best interests in mind.

Are people just responding to Sergio only or both parties? How do others feel on this?

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23 Mar 2009 8:58 AM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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Hi Jann,

Haven't seen this, what's the email address it's from, the only one's I've been getting are from asociacioncondadodealhama@gmail.com

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23 Mar 2009 10:26 AM by stonephil Star rating in Stone Staffordshire .... 399 forum posts Send private message

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 I haven't received this email either.

To clarify from my emails

The email with address of asociacioncondadodealhama@gmail.com is from what I assume are the Spanish residence

The email with address of asocondadodealhama@yahoo.com is from our friend Sergio

 



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23 Mar 2009 11:22 AM by Jann Star rating in Merseyside and Jardi.... 802 forum posts Send private message

It is from the gmail.com address so not Sergio

 

Covering emal is as below, plus attachments- the first being the letter I detailed earlier on the thread and the other's we cannot open:-

Written in Spanish and English.


Estimados propietarios:

Adjunto se os remiten los siguientes documentos:

1.- Escrito a Polaris (formato Word oficce), con nuestras peticiones.

2.- Escrito a Polaris, escaneado, sellado y entregado en las oficinas de Polaris. Registro de entrada 13  de marzo del 2009. Ver página 4.

3.- Escrito de ratificación a nivel individual con el contenido expresado en tal escrito presentado a Polaris. Esta ratificación no necesita firma.

4.- Escrito dando instrucciones de ¿a dónde enviar el escrito de ratificación por e-mmail? Y ¿por qué deberíamos enviarlo?

 

Esperamos que todos ustedes comprendan la importancia de dichas ratificaciones.

El próximo 6 de Abril, esta comisión formada por 5 personas, mantendremos una reunión en Balsicas con el Presidente de Polaris. Mientrás más e-mails de ratificación hayan enviado ustedes a ambas direcciones ( cuenta de polaris y cuenta de vuestra asociación), más fuerza tendremos nosotros ante el Presidente de Polaris en nuestras peticiones. Peticiones que como ustedes verán son de interés general, para todos los propietarios de Condado de Alhama.
Estas peticiones que se reflejan en el escrito son un primer paso y  lo que se pretende, en definitiva, es ir consiguiendo respuestas y compromisos en las negociaciones con polaris, sin desatender otras muchas peticiones que se irán transmitiendo a polaris poco a poco.

 

 

En espera de vuestra deseada y muy necesaria colaboración, reciban ustedes un cordial saludo.

LA UNIÓN NOS HARA MÁS FUERTES.

Fdo. La comisión Condado de Alhama.

 
Dear Owners:
Deputy is refer you to the following documents:
1 .- Letter to Polaris (OFICCE Word format) with our requests.
2 .- Letter to Polaris, scan, sealed and delivered at the offices of Polaris. Check March 13 2009. See page 4.
3 .- Statement of ratification at the individual level with the content expressed in that letter submitted to Polaris. This ratification does not require signature.
4 .- Written by giving instructions where to send the ratification by e-mmail? And why should we send?

We hope you all understand the importance of such ratifications.
The next April 6, the committee formed by 5 people, a reunion in Balsicas remain with the President of Polaris. The more e-mails you have sent for ratification to both directions (polaris account and your account association), we will have more power to the President of Polaris in our requests. As you will see requests that are of general interest to all owners of Condado de Alhama.
These requests are reflected in the letter are a first step and what is intended, ultimately, is to getting answers and commitments in the negotiations with polaris, without neglecting other demands that are transmitted to iran polaris gradually.

Awaiting your much needed and desired collaboration, you will receive a cordial greeting.

UNION will make us stronger.

Signed. Condado de Alhama committee



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23 Mar 2009 12:10 PM by cuz Star rating in Warwickshire and Lo.... 685 forum posts Send private message

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Hi All

I can't understand how some are getting emails from this gmail.com and not others. How did they get email addresses in the first place? As far as we know Sergio got email addresses through us contacting him.

Is Sergio aware of this other group?  We too are only too willing to support anyone that is approaching PW on behalf of all but can't understand why there seems to be 2 groups.  Wouldn't they be better working as one?

Can Mick, (Sonatigh)  Jill & Terry or Mel cast any light on this?

Has anyone heard from Sergio about the petition to Alhama council?   Has anyone heard anything about the Jardin meetings?



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23 Mar 2009 12:34 PM by Jann Star rating in Merseyside and Jardi.... 802 forum posts Send private message

I think it is most likely that someone who gathered email addresses, to promote potential services some time ago, has passed these addresses on



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23 Mar 2009 12:45 PM by danseex Star rating in Los Naranjos J4 n253. 652 forum posts Send private message

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I asked this question to Sergio and his reply was 'I have been in contact with the representatives of the other association and I respect their iniciatives but I do not share their strategies'

I'm still none the wiser

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23 Mar 2009 12:50 PM by Ted H Star rating in Purley and jardin 13.... 458 forum posts Send private message

Have to say, I am not really happy with 5 individuals, of whom I have no knowledge, and certainly haven't voted for, calling themselves "Condado de Alhama Committee".  I am all for getting some unified approach to our discussions, negotiations etc. with Polaris and others, but shouldn't this group be a bit more open as to who they are and what they are representing before claiming to be a "committee" for the development??

I would be very interested if anyone can tell us who the people behind this are.

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23 Mar 2009 12:58 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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Cuz,

Ok confused?  The email re the petition to the council to take on the outer road came from the gmail address, is this Segrio?.

Looking back the only email I have ever had regarding CdA Committe is from the gmail account.

Jann - When did the  letter you refer to below arrive?

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23 Mar 2009 1:45 PM by cuz Star rating in Warwickshire and Lo.... 685 forum posts Send private message

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Hi All

Agree with Ted that these 5 people should make themselves known.  If Sergio is wary of their strategies then he must feel they are going about things in the wrong way and this could in effect go against us. Someone must know who they are.

Phil, the only emails we have had are from ** EDITED - Forum Rules - Please do not post individuals email addresses ** and thought they were the ones doing the petition to Alhama re the outer ring roads? That is Sergio???  Isn't it?

Remember the American sit com SOAP?  Confused? You will be. lol

We need one person acting on our behalf to untangle the web and find out who's who and who's doing what

 



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23 Mar 2009 1:59 PM by ptan Star rating in Los Naranjos Jardine.... 1696 forum posts Send private message

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Cuz,

The email I had re the outer road with the subject "ANNEX II and III in both Spanish and English" was from the gmail account?

The emails of the five people are are

** EDITED - Forum Rules - Please do not post individuals email addresses **

 Phil 

 



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23 Mar 2009 2:14 PM by payton Star rating in Doncaster, South Yor.... 331 forum posts Send private message

I think Azure Property Services is linked to Alan Milton (who I believe also comes on this forum under the name of batfink!) or have I got this wrong and added even more to the confusion?!!!

Is it possible that this "association" is the group of people that met in the Surgery on a Sunday morning  a few weeks ago talking about taking on PW under the Trades Description Act?  If so, then I think we need to be very wary about associating ourselves with them for all the very good reasons put forward on that thread at the time.   The issues that they seem to be talking about are along the same lines as that group were discussing and we all seemed to be of the view that we would not be willing to support such action in the current climate. 

I think we need to identify exactly who these individuals are, what they are hoping to achieve and what action they are taking - as it may be that we would not wish to support their actions.

Sergio is doing a fantastic job on behalf of all the residents but I am very wary about this other group and think they may be going off on a tangent.

 



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23 Mar 2009 2:15 PM by happy buyer Star rating in Ireland & Jardin 7. 132 forum posts Send private message

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When I replied to post from "batfink" re cheaper tv on Condado I sent him a pm with my email address asking him for details - the reply I got back was from Azure Property - trying to sell tv a bit cheaper than PW.  Wonder if they have ulterior motive in getting into Association - just a thought as I am as confused as anyone




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23 Mar 2009 2:20 PM by cuz Star rating in Warwickshire and Lo.... 685 forum posts Send private message

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I am really confused now.   I have no knowledge of the people mentioned below and to be honest I'm not sure if I want any knowledge of them, something doesn't add up.

The email that I am referring to is the same as the one that hamibabe posted under alhama association? 

It contained this information

Due to the urgent timescale I am preparing a letter on your behalf, and will append your name in the attachment if you wish to support this action, This has been advised by the Secretary of Alhama Council who is also an Owner at Condado.
 
 
 
I need to deliver this letter on Friday 20th therefore need your details by Thursday at the latest. I will need your name, Garden Apartment and NIE Number. I will only use these details for this appeal and will not reveal them to any other party.
 
 
 
Please do not confuse these issues with the other association that uses a similar e-mail
 
 
 
With this message I attach a copy of the official statutes and a copy of my letter which I am sending to the Mayor.
 
 
 
Sergio Fuenmayor 
 

 


 



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23 Mar 2009 2:23 PM by danseex Star rating in Los Naranjos J4 n253. 652 forum posts Send private message

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Debbie and Paul  I came to the same conclusions.

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23 Mar 2009 2:24 PM by payton Star rating in Doncaster, South Yor.... 331 forum posts Send private message

Just checked this out - as I thought, Alan Milton is Azure Property Services - and also comes on the forum as "batfink".

He is advertising a number of properties on Condado, presumably as keyholder/property manager - look at this link which confirms the connection : http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/rentals/condado-de-alhama/71751.

I seem to recall that quite a long time ago, Alan Milton was barred from the EOS forum for allegedly obtaining details from other forum members to provide furniture packs, air con etc etc and receiving commission.

What the hell is going on?

Debbie (confused!)



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23 Mar 2009 2:27 PM by danseex Star rating in Los Naranjos J4 n253. 652 forum posts Send private message

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That explains how our email addresses were passed on without our consent.




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23 Mar 2009 4:33 PM by Jann Star rating in Merseyside and Jardi.... 802 forum posts Send private message

Most likely how these emails from the gmail.com source have come about. Whether its for an ulterior motive I couldnt say but I would have liked to have been approached in the 1st contact with this association to ask permission to continue contacting me.

I'm not sure if this all muddies the water or if it will help us.  The one letter I managed to open suggests there are 130 people as part of this particular association. Dont quote me on that as I'm at work and cant open it again here. Its more likely there are 130 names on a database.

The situation now with two Condado Associations is more like 'The Life of Brian' and the many political activist parties all with similar names.

 



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23 Mar 2009 5:06 PM by Alison&Simon Star rating in Hamilton,Scotland - .... 1102 forum posts Send private message

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I certainly WILL NOT be supporting anybody who does not have the common curtesy to introduce themselves and make there intentions known to the community.  Now that we know who is behind all these emails, Sergio is the man who will be supported by us.  

Ali & Si  



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