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Diada - why so much negative reporting?
Friday, September 12, 2014 @ 8:54 PM

Thursday 11 September 2014 was the Diada Nacional De Catalunya - or Catalonia's National Day. Yesterday was special in a number of ways, although of course every Diada is special to Catalans all over the world. For a start, it's 300 years since the end of the Siege of Barcelona, when Catalonia was defeated in the War Of The Spanish Succession. On that day, Catalonia lost its sovereignty and all its political and cultural rights and freedoms, the Catalan language was declared illegal, and Catalonia effectively ceased to exist as far as the central Spanish government was concerned. Centenaries are always given special treatment - as can be seen in the centenary comemmorations in the UK marking the beginning of World War I - and so is the case with Diada 2014.

Advocates for independence planned to form a giant 11 kilometer V shape along the Avenidas Diagonal and Gran Via, meeting in Glories Square. The aim was to form a mosaic of the Catalan flag, with participants turning up in red or yellow t-shirts. What's the symbolism of the V? Well, it stands for Vote, Victory and Will, all words beginning with V in the Catalan language. According to Barcelona police, 1.8 million people turned out for this peaceful demonstration, but figures released by the Spanish government suggest between 470,000 and 520,000 people were present. News reports seem divided, with some quoting police figures and others quoting the government estimates.

Now I'm not a Catalanist, but I am something of a pragmatist, and I tend to favour the police estimate for two reasons. Looking at the press of people in that 11 kilometer V, there looks to be a lot more than 500,000. And I would imagine that the police who know Barcelona so well would have a much more accurate idea of crowd numbers than sources from central government in Madrid. So I would have been happier if all the news reports had done as the Catalan News Agency and El Pais did and reported both figures, so readers can make up their own minds.

It's obviously in the government's interest to play down the numbers, since the Catalanists had called for big numbers to complete the V, but surely truth is more important? And the truth of the matter is that a very large number of people staged a peaceful, positive and tolerant demonstration to make a point that the Catalan people should be allowed to vote on whether Catalonia should become independent from Spain, just as Scotland will vote next week on whether the country should become independent from the United Kingdom. Whether you agree with the idea of Catalan or Scottish independence or not, surely the people themselves have the right to decide?

Another thing that really annoys me as a neutral reading these reports is the way almost all the press describes the Catalan advocates for independence as 'separatists' or 'nationalists.'  Both these words have negative connotations, and neither of them can be accurately applied to the Catalanists. I like the word Catalanists, simply because it is an accurate description of a person who is for Catalan independence but not against Spain. And just because someone is pro independence, it doesn't mean they are against Spain. That's the point that a lot of the right wing reporting on the Catalan question seems to miss.

There are fervent Catalanists who will support Spain in the World Cup, for example, but would vote for independence, if the vote actually goes ahead. Catalans are certainly not nationalists in a negative sense, as described by George Orwell in his 1945 essay Notes on Nationalism.Orwell described nationalism as 'Inseperable from the desire for power, for the nation rather than the individual.' Orwell goes on to describe patriotism as 'Devotion to a place and a way of life which one believes is the best, but which one doesn't wish to force on others.'

Personally, I think it would be far more accurate - and certainly more positive - to describe the Catalanists as patriots, rather than separatists or nationalists. From what  I know of the Catalan people, and from friends who have been absorbed into the Catalan way of life because of their interest in the language and the culture, and their support for Barcelona Football Club, I would say that patriot is a good word to use. These people are proud of their language - which was illegal for 300 years but survived nonetheless - and their culture.

You do not have to have been born in Catalonia to be accepted as a Catalan - in fact around 40% of the Catalans living  in Barcelona were actually born elsewhere in Spain. So that kicks out the separatist description too. You could perhaps describe the Basques as separatists and nationalists - if you wanted to use such negative words, and I don't - because broadly speaking they want political unification for the Basque speaking provinces. However the friendly, welcoming, all-embracing, tolerant Catalanists should never be described in such negative terms and I, for one, find it totally unacceptable.

 



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RiojaRosie said:
Saturday, September 13, 2014 @ 7:46 PM

Amazing content in this post Sandra. You are such a versatile writer, equally at home with shaggy dog stories and European Political History. Good stuff. Rx


SandrainAlgorfa said:
Saturday, September 13, 2014 @ 8:22 PM

Thanks Rosie - it's not something I'm well up on, but it just rankled reading the reports yesterday, because I know different from my Catalan friends. Sometimes, it pays to write from the heart, I think.


mac75 said:
Sunday, September 14, 2014 @ 1:26 PM

Hi Sandra

Well I must admit I enjoyed reading your post and I would like to share my opinion on the matter. I have members of my family who are Catalan by birth and through emigration, I have worked for many years with Catalans and spent a lot of time in Catalonia but neither my relatives nor I would consider ourselves ‘Catalanists’, I am afraid. If anything I would say Spanish. The comparison with Scotland is really not valid, as they have nothing in common at all. One must remember that Scotland was a kingdom until they united with the crown of England, It has always had its own sovereignty as a country. Catalonia has never had it own sovereignty; it has never been an independent country ever. Historically, at its most independent time in history, it was a Principality under the count of Barcelona but the sovereignty belonged to the Crown of Aragon which spread across the Mediterranean all the way to Sicily. Now some believe this to be their period of independence, but it wasn’t a period of independence really. To find an independent ‘Catalonia’ you would really have to go back to the 12th century when it was just a county like many others in Spain, not a kingdom.

So it is not similar to Scotland in that respect. Yes Catalonia was very important for the Crown of Aragon but when it united with the Crown of Castile, it laid down the foundations for a united crown and thus a united Spain. Yes Catalonia lost its rights when the Bourbons took the crown of Spain, but that’s history and all the regions of Spain followed suit. In reality Catalonia is no more a country than Andalucía, which is even considered to be a “nationality” in Spain.

Let’s not forget Spain is a diverse country integrated by different contrasting regions that show varying economic and social structures, as well as different languages and historical, political and cultural traditions. According to the current Spanish constitution, the Spanish nation is the common and indivisible homeland of all Spaniards, which is integrated by nationalities and regions to which the constitution recognises and guarantees the right to self-government. Catalonia is no more than a region with its own special rights due to history. Navarre has more right to independence than Catalonia, that was a kingdom. To put it into perspective, it’s like Cornwall asking for independence. Never was an independent country, has it own language and history, a nationality maybe but not a country, a county.

So when you ask why there is so much negativity and why do they call them separatists, it’s because the Spanish don’t want to lose Catalonia as it belongs to them just as much as the Catalonians, Spain is one country and they are already autonomous. They don’t have a claim to sovereignty and never have done and secondly the consequences would be disastrous for the Catalans and for Spain. So they are effectively separatists wanting to break down Spain, whichever way you look at it. Personally I am against Catalan independence. It has gone too far. This is not Scotland by any means and even Scotland shouldn’t go independent but they at least do have a right to sovereignty. Many Catalans will want my head for what I have just written but unfortunately they are a lot of misinformed Catalans in Catalonia especially when it comes to the economic truth behind an independent Catalonia.



simonharris said:
Sunday, September 14, 2014 @ 5:54 PM

Hi mac75,

I've lived in Catalonia for 26 years and am firmly in favour of independence from Spain and made my feelings felt in a joyous celebration of Catalanism along with 1.8 million others last Thursday.

I'd like to take you up on a couple of points ...

Catalonia has been a sovereign state since 987 AD when it declared independence from the the Franks. In 1137, the Count of Barcelona, Ramon Berenguer IV, married Petronila the heiress to the Kingdom of Aragon. Their son became ruler of a confederation called the Crown of Aragon, in which the the Kingdom of Aragon and the Principality of Catalonia maintained separate laws in much the same way as England and Scotland did after James VI of Scotland acceded to the English throne as James I . You might like to read my article on the subject ....http://independence.barcelonas.com/confusing-kingdom-crown-aragon

Secondly, Catalan claims for more autonomy and/or independence have been going on for centuries. It's a bit like an unhappy marriage ... if one partner finally decides to leave, the other might think they have a say in the matter but don't really!

The best way is to be civilised about it and try to remain amicable if only because after so long, the two parties have so many shared interests and so much in common.




SandrainAlgorfa said:
Sunday, September 14, 2014 @ 6:26 PM

Hello mac75

Thanks so much for your interesting comments. First of all, I should point out that I'm not really comparing Scotland and Catalonia - it's just a passing reference, and I recognise it's two completely different situations.

I do not have a view on Catalan independence myself, but I do recognise that there is a lot of negative reporting which is for the most part undeserved. And I know where you're coming from with your argument, but I still feel it's erroneous and insulting to label the Catalans who want independence as 'separatists.'

Hello Simon

Thanks for coming in and making your points so clearly and concisely. I am really enjoying reading your posts on Catalan and Spanish history, and look forward to reading your book when it comes out.


mac75 said:
Sunday, September 14, 2014 @ 9:52 PM

Not sure one can really claim sovereignty from over 1000 years ago. I know the history of Catalonia, just don't agree with your interpretation. Catalunya has never been an independent kingdom, if that had been the case Ramon Berenguer IV would have been KIng of Catalonia and not Count of Barcelona. He wasn't even responsible for all the Catalan counties. He had no rule over Pallars, Ampurias ni Rosellón. Three important Catalan counties. Scotland for example was a kingdom up to 1707. Historical discrepancies apart, because there are so many. It surprises me that not being Catalan you firmly believe that Catalonia should be independent. What makes you believe so firmly that independence of Catalonia is the best thing for Catalonia, debatable historical facts alone simply don't cut it. If we take a close look at history, Catalonia has always been integrated in what we would refer to as Spain going right back to the Romans. Tarragona was the capital of the Roman Hispania. Barcelona was the capital of the Visigoth Hispania before Toledo. The only separatist war was that of The Reapers, 1640, with a monarchy in crisis (Flanders, Portugal, Andalucía). The current separatism movement is modern, recent and barely spans a century. Its just politics and interests. Anyone who loves Catalonia should be fighting to keep it together, leaving Spain would be catastrophic. The Spaniards comprise 80% of Catalonia's customer base. If they go independent I am pretty sure that they'll start putting flags in the supermarkets saying "products from catalonia" like they do in Catalonia now to stop people buying Spanish goods. Its all incredibly childish. We are in the 21st Century and only a fool would believe that Catalonia can make it on its own. Every company thats worth anything will move to Spain and Catalonia will suffer tremendously. I still haven't heard of any country willing to guarantee Catalonia's debt, because it will have to borrow to survive. Lets not forget that Catalonia is what it is today because of Spanish emigrants. 80% of Catalans have non-catalan grand parents so this independence movement is very recent. Anyway everyone is free to have their own view I think it would be a disaster if Catalonia left Spain, more for the Catalonians than the rest of Spain. My catalan family is firmly against independence and I know many who have simply been brainwashed with untruthful facts, mainly the young who show their passion rather than their intelligence. Even well respected professors in history reject Catalonia's claim to independence. At present at least, there will be no referendum as it is against the constitution and illegal, thank God. It is doing what it was meant to do, protect the interests of all the Spaniards. It is far too important to treat this as an amicable divorce and the future of too many people are at risk. The future of Catalonia in the hands of Mas is frightening.


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