01 Dec 2010 12:22 PM:

Dear PI

Of course I have read the report (carefully). The view of GT is one thing.  The facts are another (proving them also is tricky).

1) We know that OVP was bled for money using funds from investors in various ways..I'm not going over the same stuff again;

2) GT are undertaking civil procedures as part of a liquidation, not criminal proceedings.  You cannot do either if there are no grounds to do so. So if GT have establised grounds there is wrong doing, in their opinion, as stated.  The same arguments may in the end be used in a criminal case. The Poiice can use the Proceeds or Crime Act to seize property (assets) if they can prove they derived from the proceeds of crime. A crime may well have been committed, which in my case is or OVP to spend or otherwise dispose / let go of my money when they clearly knew they had agreed no to do so.

My solicitor did do as much as to insist that no funds would be transferred to Sungolf until the Building Licence on EBCC was granted, which it never was. The whole of the deposit money should be available for refund, but it is not.The weakness was the remidy available if we had to litigate for the return of the money in so much as a private company is not under the same strict rules as say a solicitor would be if money was held in a client account so more chance of them nicking it. In any event  my money is missing from OVP and therefore stolen. 

 If anyone has this money they have "the proceeds of crime" hence my point. If it is now a house or a car or boat (they have been purchased using the "proceeds of crime". To date, not proven, but the material facts are there - but maybe not in writing. It was a clever, but hopefully not clever enough.

4) Another avenue for action is welcome. But it does not change the facts.

Finally, PI, we are all fighting the same fight, so let;s ensure we win this, as I am sure we will! 

Joey123

 

 

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26 Nov 2010 3:11 PM:

Hi Dave

In the first instance this is where we are at:

case with SFO's baristers for consideration (since Aug 2010)
* reports from people that have lost money have been filtered to them for over 2.5 years
* call the SFO case referral Baristers on 020 7239 7272 and ask what is happening re the EBCC/OVP/Sungolf investigation.

Don;t call Andy Spears - lHe is waiting on them

It is all hanging on the above. DI Spears has done what he can. It would be good to get 100s of calls to them to make them fully understand the shear scale of the wrong doing.

What we need to get is the boys in blue at the SFO to spearhead an international investigation with recovery of misapporriated assets under the powers they have under the Proceeds of Crime Act. WIth the ultimate aim of getting the OVP men locked up as they nicked my (our) money.

Looking foward to some more responses from others, DF.

Cheers

Joey123

 

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25 Nov 2010 11:50 AM:

so where are you all now?  Any one out there? Any momentum left? please direct it at Staffordshire Police, the SFO, Interpol, MPs, SOCA, the lot - lets find out the truth and get these people brought to account. I'm all for looking into whether solicitors were negligent, but let's punish the perpertrators of this scam.

COME ON EVERYONE - let;'s re-open the forum debates. Ok, let us know your progress on the above so as to keep spirits up - I need a lift. I want to hear this is being investigate properly. An annual report from GT is not enough, especially as we are not creditors anyway on EBCC and G of M so they may not even bother to write to use any more as they do not need to (in their view! - not that I agree with it).

 

 

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11 Nov 2010 3:08 PM:

Hi Ang

I'm only at Phase 2 with this - there are many more Phases!  I will not be giving up. even if I become an inceasing lone voice!

Cheers

Joey123

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09 Nov 2010 1:01 PM:

EBCC/ OVP fatigue has set in - I suppose there is nothing to say much now.  I hope there is much going on by the SFO / Staff Police - good luck all

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