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13 February 2011:

 We are one of three communities that share some common services. In addition to our own AGM we also attend the AGM of the combined communities.

At the last combined AGM our president voted on an important matter but by voting YES the vote went against our interest and effectively made us liable to pay 50000€ more than we expected.

Our community president did not get our permission at the last AGM to vote YES.

 

The result is that we are being pressured to share a large common cost by equal amounts rather than coefficients.

The community are very angry at the president voting without permission and have since removed the president from office by an EGM.

Is there any law that protects our community against votes being cast by our president without our permission.

Can the unauthorized vote be declared void or is there any type of insurance that would protect the community?

Thank you in anticipation of any advice on this matter.




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23 June 2010:

 We are a small community with our own president, committee and budget - but we are also part of a larger community.

We have a 24% coefficient and the larger community - Big Brother - has a 76% coefficient.

At the AGM of the combined communities we vote on issues that are common to both communities - street lights, main gate, security fence and common electrical services. We vote and pay by coefficients eg 24:76

Recently Big Brother called an AGM at very short notice and didn't even put up a public notice and an agenda of items to be put to the vote. Our president - without any discussion with out community - voted to support  an installation of electrical services and effectively cost our community 48000€ more than if she had voted against the installation.

I thought a president must call a general meeting to allow the community to decide how it wants her to vote on our behalf.

Am I right ?

The whole community is up in arms about the high cost of the project especially at this rather difficult financial time.

Any views and comfort would be most welcome - VV




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05 June 2010:

 We are one of three sub communites each with its own budget and AGM.

In addition to our own AGM each year we also have a combined AGM to decide on shared issues like internal road, lights and security fences.

We vote by our coefficients (10%, 25% and 65%) and share the common costs also by coefficients.

Can the sub-community with the largest vote force us to pay a shared cost other than by our own coefficients?

Many thanks - PVV




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16 May 2010 13:18:

Thank you for the replies - perhaps it might help if I gave the background to the situation.


We are a community 81 apartments sharing some common service such as electricity distribution with  another community of 30 large villa.

We attend the combined AGM with a 24% coefficient - THEY have the balance of the %.


There was a proposal 7 years ago to carry out the work and share the costs equally between each of the 81+30 properties.

The move to share the costs by our relative coefficients (24:76) was defeated as their large coefficient comfortably exceeded our.


Time passed by and our arguments for a coefficient to payments share - the usual we understand - were discarded until now when the project has been reared its ugly head again.

The cost of the project has increased from about 54000€ to a frightening 160000€. The project is completely different to the original proposals and we have not been given sight of the project documents.

The payment details included in the meeting call only show the sharing scheme by equal shares per dwelling and contains a serious error in the figure - being under-stated by 33%


This does seems very unfair and there is not even the opportunity to negotiate the issue as our president - of our 24% community - seems to have accepted the situation. An EGM has been called and the agenda does not include a vote on the basic cost sharing plan - to which we feel does not follow the usual coefficient - vote - pay.

Have we missed something - hence the rumble round the community to either ignore the meeting or attend or use a proxy to abstain.


Even more thanks if you help.




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16 May 2010:

Can anyone advise how a vote to abstain (usually done in protest) is counted at a general meeting?

We have been notified without any advance warning of an EGM on an important and expensive matter.

There is no acceptable option on the agenda.

Help would be most appreciated - Thank you very much




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