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Wednesday, June 18, 2008
keighty
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hi when we ever sell or rent owe house in sunny england and move to rainy spain, i am going to start my own business up fitting sky tv? is there much demand for this service??
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18 Jun 2008 6:06 PM
Karensun
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Will that be LEGAL sky or the same as we seem to get now, which apparently is not legal?
Can't make any sense of the recent goings on myself as we now seem to have sky back and other providers never lost it anyway!!
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18 Jun 2008 6:24 PM
keighty
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i've been told sky is legal in spain but its ellegal for any one from sky to work in spain as mr mr sky him self would not pay the spainish taxes.
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18 Jun 2008 6:46 PM
Karensun
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Think you might need to get another opinion on the legality of Sky in Spain.................especially as one provider CUT ALL the Sky programmes ( tho we have them back I think now ) and we were all told that all other providers would have to stop showing Sky eventually.
It seems the only way to do it is to but the Sky card and pay UK prices for viewing over here...........................and even tho there is one provider doing that I still am not sure it is legal.
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18 Jun 2008 7:08 PM
satandpcguy
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oh where to start.....
receiving tv channels that are broadcast for free via satellite is not illegal.
receiving subscription tv channels via satellite is not illegal.
using a sky card outside of the UK is not illegal. it is however against the terms and conditions of your sky contract - but how do they know that the card is out of the country ( )
the rebroadcasting of any tv signals is illegal (unless you have the required copyright requests from the broadcasters and the programme makers - which they do not)
unfortunately there are many installers of sky, free and other european tv satellite services. To start from scratch could be a pain as many of the clients are done via word of mouth and recommentations - unless you find an area that really requires the service - i have heard that the north of spain does lack installers.
Hope this helps
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18 Jun 2008 7:22 PM
georgia
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Telmicro Levante are claiming that now they only broadcast "RIGHTS PAID" channels,ther must be some truth in it as they have it flashing up on their channel every 5 mins.
I guess we will know the truth over the test of time.
They now broadcast as before but without sky movies (no great loss)
At least we have our beloved sky sports back for the new season...............
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18 Jun 2008 8:41 PM
satandpcguy
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they may claim that, but they wold not have the correct permissions. they may be paying a sky subscription for a sky card in a sky digibox and then sending that signal out to ther clients (not allowed in the T&C's of sky contracts), but that is not the same as paying for the rights to rebroadcast!
for example, the FA sell the FA Premier league rights to broadcasters in each country. Sky and setanta have the rights to broadcast the games in the UK and Ireland ONLY. TVE won the rights to watch the premier league in Spain only. If sky were to allow the rebroadcasters to legally transmit their channels to spanish houses, sky would be in breach of its FA contract, and both the FA and TVE can take Sky to court for this breach. if sky wanted pan european rights for the fa prem league so that it could legitimatly broadcast over the whole of europe, they would have to pay the FA a lot more than the £2billion they pay for the 4 year UK only coverage. and then you must also think that their subscription prices will also increase dramatically.
so sky, and other satellite services do the best they can to limit their channels to their own territories, either by restricting their signal (eg BBC and ITV on Astra 2D) or by issueing subscription cards to own territory houses.
so these rebroadcasters may say they can legally rebroadcast these SKY channels, but in truth they cannot. if you go to their office ask them if you can see a copy of the contract between them and sky or the beeb which allows them to rebroadcast.
i think that it is slightly different when rebroadcasting spainish free channels to spanish homes, but the same would still apply to spainish subscription tv (D+).
and EU law is unsure are to how to handle this area. it recognises freedom of movement of goods and services between member states, but then their TV and media recognised the difficulties of TV contracts and how it is almost impossible to impliment pan european tv contracts between member states!
i dont want this to turn into a sky / rebroadcasting / eu law bashing thread. but these are the facts explained as simply as i can.
This message was last edited by satandpcguy on 6/18/2008.
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