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Friday, May 23, 2008
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hi
i bought a property through this company,they were acting as an agent for a property i bought in Bulgaria. does anybody know anything about them as my understanding is that they have gone into liquidation with a large payment i sent to them whch never got passed onto the developer???? please help!!!
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23 May 2008 11:10 AM
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Were they based in San Pedro de Alcantara? If is was them I think they were part of another company.
Let me know if it is them and I'll try and find out who they are/were for you.
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23 May 2008 11:28 AM
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this is the address i had for them
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27 May 2008 9:45 PM
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RHH have taken my cash for a furniture pack and disappeared. I believe they were operating in San Pedro. I've also seen a suggestion that the same guys behind RHH are now running a new company named direct2investments so that they start swindling people all over again. Let me know if you catch up with them!
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27 May 2008 10:56 PM
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sorry to hear there is other people who have been take for a ride Tim. Does anybody know how to try to claim money back or if it is possible. is there anyway of getting hold of the administrator to get on the list of creditors in the hpe of getting some money back????
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28 May 2008 6:15 PM
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will present this to my lawyer once my apt is complete and furniture fitting is due. Aparently theres no such thing as bankrupcy in Spain, so Im not sure where we stand. Which development in Bulgaria by the way?
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28 May 2008 9:01 PM
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hi
is your apartment in Bulgaria? mine is the diamond bay complex in sunny beach i have contacted a few lawyers but without any luck as to where i can take it?
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29 May 2008 7:45 PM
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I have done a little digging and it really does seem that the people operating this company are long gone. I can't be sure where they are now.
An agent friend of mine even told me that they owed him money for clients he passed to them.
Tim, bankruptcy does exist in Spain. It's called "quiebra".
furbs if you haven't spoken to a lawyer in Spain yet then it may be worth your while having a chat with Maria de Castro who is an excellent lawyer and contributor to EOS. She may be able to advise what, if any, action you can take.
Best of luck with it.
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30 May 2008 12:18 PM
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how do i get in touch with Maria de Castro can i send a private mesage i did request access to be able to do this but i have
not recieved confirmation that i can as yet?
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30 May 2008 3:06 PM
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You can contact here through her website Costa Luz Lawyers.
Best of luck.
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30 May 2008 3:22 PM
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thank you Justin i have emailed her fingers crossed
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31 May 2008 11:41 AM
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Thanks for the info Justin.
Furbs -- Ive bought in Panorama Bansko, Bulgaria. I've now also seen suggestion that Norfolk Police are investigating the former Directors of RHH. I paid them through mastercard so will now try to pursue the matter through the credit card co.
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01 Jun 2008 9:54 PM
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hi Justin
are you based in norfolk we are in cheshire?
it is a good point you mentioned i will report it to cheshire police at least then i have a crime number to work from in the
UK!!!
have you personally reported it to the police? you are lucky that you paid by credit card possibly you will have some come back
from that angle?
do you know any other clients who have lost money through red hot homes?
in bansko were they trading as red hot homes or the diamond experience? also did you pay your money to a subsidary company within red hot homes callled BG legal services?
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01 Jun 2008 10:36 PM
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They had certainly set up in bulgaria as TDE, not sure about RHH which were registered both in Spain and UK (along with their other guise of Worldwide Legal Services). They appear to have left a complicated structure of registered co's behind like seasoned money launderers.
I'm not sure if I'll be covered by credit card, especially since one of the pymts went through HIFX and it may be deemed that the only thing bought was euros and that had been delivered, even if it was sent straight to the criminal's account (!). There is at least one other person in your situation who has posted in another forum I use (Talk Bansko). I imagine there are many others. There you will also find a post from a former employee of RHH who claims to have left the co. in summer of 2007 when he realised that they were intent on defrauding clients. He also claims that they (The Devlins) have done the same thing before with a co. named something like 'Gold Coast Properties('?)
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02 Jun 2008 10:40 AM
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Yes Tim, they used to work for "Golden Coast Estates" who had a truly dreadful reputation. They had to shut down even during the boom period. I think it was about 4 years ago.
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03 Jun 2008 8:37 PM
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I note that there is now an application to have the co. struck off in the UK. These guys shouldn't be allowed to set up again, although I understand they might have already. I'm not sure whether to offer info to Norfolk police or wait and see what the cc company suggest.
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03 Jun 2008 11:48 PM
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how do you know that the norfolk police are investigating it?
i would offer information if it prevented others from losing their money
i have tried several ways of trying to get my money back but so all dead ends im gutted!!!!!
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04 Jun 2008 7:03 PM
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I don't know this for certain, but posts on a different forum (talk Bansko) suggest this is the case. It does seem likely since the reg. office of RHH UK was in Norwich. The posts are from someone else who appears to have been defrauded by RHH on their final pymt - I assume this is your position (?).
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05 Jun 2008 10:49 AM
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hi
not final payment 3rd payment that is hy it is high amout. i should have a look on talk bansko what is the site d you know if the
others have had any look with lawyers trying to get their money back?
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05 Jun 2008 6:50 PM
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Here's someone-else's post on Red Hot Thieves;
"For those who purchased through Red Hot Homes:
** EDITED - names **
Ralitsa Galeva (Lawyer) 00359 899 802536
Detective Chris Gay, Norfolk Police 01953 424362
This is investigating officer into ** EDITED - name **, Red Hot Homes, Direct 2 Investment and EMI Developers
** EDITED - name ** has attended "A Place in the Sun" at the Excel in April selling Brazil"
and this was another;
"Hi
I was Sales Manager between March and July 2007 for Red Hot Homes i pulled out when i knew what was going on and sent letters to all cleints some responded
This company has now set up again under the names of Direct2world property they are still based in San Pedro Spain hiding out.
I and several others are owed money by this company this is not the first time the Managing Director ** EDITED - name ** has taken all the money and run a few years back he did the same with a company called Golden Coast
If any cleints have sent them money and are concerned please contact the developer direct i know a lot of the developers have not received payments.
If you have lost money i suggest that you take a personal Judgement out here in Spain on ** EDITED - name ** if you need any information please dont hesitate to contact me "
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