"Padron" what is it

I have been reading through some stuff on the web site about water,electric and rubbish collection charges.Someone says that they are registered on the "padron"at the local town hall.Can someone please tell me what that means and if its a big hassle to get registered ?

Thank you ;

all the best

It´s very easy to register. Just go to your town hall and take your NIE or passport or residencia if resident and a copy of your Escritura/tile deeds or rental contract (If renting). The official will identify your address on a map and issue your empadronamiento or padron for short. There may be a small charge for each person you register at the address. The town hall can then claim a larger capitation of funds from central government that pays for more facilities in the town. The padron register is used for statistics as well, recording the population etc.

Thank you for that I will pop down to the town hall on my next trip,

all the best

Hi Gilly & John

It cost us nothing to get on the Padron, we are also non residents. As Gillespie says the town hall can obtain funding for each home registered to pay for police, fire dept, schooling, health care etc so it's quite important.

Some information about ths here:

Empadronamiento - What you need to know

Just go to your town hall and take your NIE or passport or residencia if resident and a copy of your Escritura/tile deeds or rental contract (If renting).

Is that the whole escritura or just a specific part? the escritura is a huge document of about 100 pages and lugging it around Vera (I won't manage to get up early enough for a decent parking space ) will be a right pain.

Mark

Your copia simple will suffice.

INFO ON PADRON

100 pages on an escritura????? What do you own Markfish? The Mojacar Hilton!!!

Seriously, the amount of paper I got from my solicitor when I went in last week was about 2" thick!! Is the copia simple in amongst that lot somewhere?

Mark

Guess it could be. Mark,  though we were given our Copia Simple when we completed then needed to wait months for the escritura proper to come from land registry. Our Copia Simple is a few pages & the escritura is more a small file. Our Copia Simple has (guess) COPIA SIMPLE typed across the top.


This message was last edited by morerosado on 2/19/2008.

In the early 90´s I owned an Office equipment company in the North East of England. We had the county council contract to supply copier paper to all the Colleges and Universities, not to mention schools, police stations, hospitals, and coucil departments. 1 University alone would require four pallets of paper per month. 60 boxes per pallet, 5 reams(2500 sheets per box) equalled 600,000 sheets per delivery. A 100 page escritura is now put into perspective. ;+)

This thread really interested me, as I thought the Padron was for residents only and was equivalent to our Electoral Roll

Now I know about it helping to fund facilities in our area and is open to Non Residents, I will be making a trip to register too.

Thanks Gillespie, your post was very useful.

Regards,

I think it depends on where you live to how easy it is to get on the Padron.

I'm in Torrevieja and 3 years ago I decided to register, I collected my ticket and waited about 1 1/2 hours to be seen.  I wasn't allowed to register as I was told I had to live there for 11 months before I could sign. 

Last year I understand this changed but it could have something to do with the elections.

Maybe we'll try again in March and see what happens this time.

I've read on other forums that people who had recently moved to live in Orihuela Costa where being turned away from the padron office and told not to come back until they were residents!  As they were trying to get on the padron to enrol their children in school they were not best pleased.  It would seem that the law has changed recently and as per usual it depends on how the officials are interpreting this change to how they act.

That's what I think happend in my padron fiasco.

My understanding is that you sign on in the area of your main residence in Spain but it all depends on who you see when you get there.

Perhaps we should have a list of who has been successful, could always go down the other route and buy a car.  The dealer will probably arrange the padron for you!

It actually is  interesting for  the Administration to have real figures on the Padron, so the door is always open to people who can prove that they live in Spain .

We did our pardon last year and I believe that a few concessions went with that ie you could use the main swimming pool in the village for free in the summer.   But I think I am right in saying being non residents we have to renew it, am I right in thinking this or have I GOT THAT WRONG.    Pat

If you have children of school age then you would need to update your padron yearly as it is only valid for the first 3 months of issue.

Possibly the same would apply for car purchase but as I said previously the dealer would probably do that for you to ensure a sale.

Can't think of any other reason for renewing it at the moment.

I've owned my house for over 4 years, the previous owner moved to Australia but I still get electoral communications and christmas cards from the mayor addressed to her.

Maria - I do appreciate that the figures maybe out of sync with the overall residencia statistics by allowing non residents to sign on to the padron.

By not signing on then any regular visitors to Spain are putting a strain on an undermanned police force.

I go out to the house for a total of 3 months but when my husband decides to reduce the amount of hours he works then we could be out there for 2 months at a time.  My suggestion is to work 2 months in UK, spend 2 months in Spain etc etc.

Also as a house owner I'd like to have a say in what happens in my local cummunity, I pay my taxes why can't I vote.

Perhaps then I'll get my own christmas card

Hi, Just thought I would pass on what I have read in the local free paper in the last few weeks

Apparantly the law has now changed since January of this year. It said that you now have to have residency before you can sign on the padron.Maybe Maria can confirm this?

I think that it is only oriheula town hall as we fall into this category.

I'm totally confused now!

As a Non Resident, should we register or not?

 

everybody should sign on the padron........

There have been instances where facilities have been withdrawn as the town hall have stated that they were unaware of the amount of people living there.

For example, on one urbanisation the Farmacia was moved and then suddenly the residents were up in arms.......

The town hall answered this with "we didnt know you lived there!!!" and rightly so.

In Algorfa to register on the padron takes all of about 20 minutes of your time,fill the forms out and go back to collect your certificate in 2 days.

 

Thanks Georgia.

I will make sure we do it, gawd knows what it would be like without our local bars!

The old git would be lost!

Fibby, Isn't Playa Flemenca in Orihuela?  If so then without a residencia I don't think you can.

I renewed mine at the end of last year, it took Mrs Gillespie just a couple of minutes. Mind you she does look better than georgia in mini skirt!

semijubilada

Yes, we are Playa Flamenca, Orihuella Costa.............so I can't then?

why don't Orihuella allow non residents on the Padron then?

This is all soooooo confusing!

Formentura Costa says that the law changed in January so I would imagine that every area would be abiding by these new rules.  So far I've only read of people who have just moved out to Orihuela Costa are having difficulty in enroling their children into school because they can't enrol on the padron without a residencia.

It remains to be seen what happens in other areas.

Wait a couple of months Fibby and try then, maybe they will let you.  At the moment it's a waste of time.

Thanks, semijubilada,

I will give it a go in the Summer.

Regards,

Hi have just heard from someone that lives in  our village, who has said yes the law has changed in January if you are a non resident you cannot sign on the Padron.    But being as we signed on last year we wil be able to renew it at the cost of       1.80euros,  Hope this helps.   Pat 

Just to clear up any confusion with the padron here guys.....

You do not need a padron to gain residencia but you do need residencia to gain the padron certificate.

so get your residencia first and the get yourself on the padron.

Also you only need to renew your certifiacte if you are registering a child in a new school,registering for the health service,registering a new car etc..etc...

If you are currently on the padron you do not need to re register.

I hope this clears up a few facts and myths....

If you are currently on the padron you do not need to re register.

That's not what you told me when I emailed you about reregistering, so what's going on, G ?

As I said previously the previous owner of our house emigrated to Australia over 4 years ago.

I get electoral communications and loads of junk mail.  I pay the suma and what do I get, nada, not even a christmas card from the mayor cause even that's in her name

The way it is now no one can buy a car until they obtain a residencia unless they are already registered on the padron.  I'm not sure the car dealers will be too impressed with that.  They could loose a lot of business.