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26 Jan 2016 2:28 PM by bhjoffe Star rating. 6 posts Send private message

Howdy!

Unlike EU citizens, Americans with USA passports must meet very stringent Schengen Agreement criteria to be granted retirement visas in Spain. Among other requirements, one must document a MINIMUM annual retirement income of EUR 25,560 + EUR 6,390 for each additional family member.

I certainly do NOT receive retirement income of EUR 31,950 per year for the two of us ... nor do I know of many other "expats" (not to mention Spaniards!) who do.

Being granted a retirement visa is much easier, cheaper, and quicker in Portugal, France, Italy, and almost every other EU nation--except Spain.

If my spouse and I were to be granted a retirement visa in Portugal, would that qualify us as "EU citizens" entitled to stay longer than 90 days at a time in Spain ... or would Spain still deal with us based on our USA passports?

Thanks for your thoughts!

[By the way, we've owned a vacation bolt in Olvera, one of the lovely pueblos blancos, for a number of years ... and we've just purchased a somewhat larger property in Martos, right outside of Jaen, the provincial capital. We love Andalucia!]

 


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26 Jan 2016 2:56 PM by lobin Star rating. 256 posts Send private message

Becoming a resident of Portugal does not make you a Portuguese citizen.  You would still be a US citizen not a citizen of an EU country.

The right to remain in Spain for more than 90 days without any further administrative authorization, like for example a resident permit (residencia) is only granted to citizens of an EU country not to non-EU citizens that reside in an EU country.

For Spanish purposes, you would still be a US citizen.





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26 Jan 2016 3:04 PM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9402 posts Send private message

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Dear

Howdy!

Unlike EU citizens, Americans with USA passports must meet very stringent Schengen Agreement criteria to be granted retirement visas in Spain. Among other requirements, one must document a MINIMUM annual retirement income of EUR 25,560 + EUR 6,390 for each additional family member.

I certainly do NOT receive retirement income of EUR 31,950 per year for the two of us ... nor do I know of many other "expats" (not to mention Spaniards!) who do.

Being granted a retirement visa is much easier, cheaper, and quicker in Portugal, France, Italy, and almost every other EU nation--except Spain.

If my spouse and I were to be granted a retirement visa in Portugal, would that qualify us as "EU citizens" entitled to stay longer than 90 days at a time in Spain ... or would Spain still deal with us based on our USA passports?

As soon as you become e EU resident you enjoy all rights of movement and residency. I am attaching a leaflet which will be useful for you:

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/policies/citizenship/docs/guide_free_movement_low.pdf

Thanks for your thoughts!

[By the way, we've owned a vacation bolt in Olvera, one of the lovely pueblos blancos, for a number of years ... and we've just purchased a somewhat larger property in Martos, right outside of Jaen, the provincial capital. We love Andalucia!] Olvera is lovely"

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