Scandal of the Unqualified Doctors!

Residents on the Costa Blanca learned today (The Coastrider) that ‘the majority of GPs based at local health centres are not fully qualified and would not be allowed to work as General Practitioners in the UK or other European countries.’ – Dr. Roman Jimenez Gil: President Puma 22 Organisation.

It is amazing how these 'reports' turn up just before the elections!!

Last week, at 8am, outside the salud, Claro were distributing leaflets and now we find we are all possibly being treated by unqualified doctors.

Just once, it would be really good if the proof was garnered BEFORE the damming statements!

I am not  shooting the messanger.................just wondering about the validity and timing of the statements but of course..................it must be true if it is in the papers!!            

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Mr Pegman: You have a strong real estate commercial interest in the area covered by these non-GPs. If this makes the headlines in the UK then it won’t do your business much good. The thought of seeing this disclosure in the Daily Mail must give you sleepless nights. If you are then able to find a client try telling him or her that it is all twaddle; ironically something which estate agents are notorious for.

Mike

After reading the newspaper reports I have withdrawn my comment , however I still believe that if this is true then the Puma 22 action group should publish the names of these " unqualified GPs" and also the Health centres where they are working

After living here for many years I have found that it is only at election time that these report surface.

I do not live in the areas concerned and am very satisfied that the GPs in my health centre as well qualified, however I do accept your points and would always advise my clients accordingly .

By the way Mike I understand that in a past life you were an Estate agent so do I take it that you told your clients a load of twaddle

Fine; I can live with that. Two points: Puma 22 are desperate to publish the names of these quacks and provide details of their true qualifications. It is not Puma 22 that is withholding them. They are demanding them so they can be published. As I say these charlatans will still be treating us long after the elections are over.

Mike

What happened to The Whistleblower, i used to receive that online

Like the market, it evaporated. I had several thousand in its address book but the market plummeted until there were so few it wasn't worth it. You're a champ for surviving; very few did. They blame the government but the big names were culprits too; like McAnthony International. I can't think of a big name developer / agent that acted with integrity though VIVA in the Sol was okay and accountable.

Without wishing to interrupt this Estate Agents Reunited Mutual Admiration Society, what we have here then is an ex estate agent spreading gossip under a sensationalist headline for which there is absolutely no independent evidence.  Now there's a first

Coastrider feature  

Worrying though if it's true. A friend of mine had pains in her arm November some years ago & went to her Dr. in Torrevieja. He said she needed physio on it but it got worse so, in desperation, she flew back to the UK & went to her old Dr just before Christmas same year. He sent her to hospital for immediate tests where she learnt she had bone cancer in her shoulder, stayed in hospital for chemo, never got home as she died there March 13th, a few weeks from diagnosis. She was 49.

Still feel it would have been good if the writer of the article had proof that some/all/any of the doctors at the Salud were under qualified BEFORE the article appeared. After all without proof there is no validation.

1. Several years ago................in state of collapse, went to Salud, admitted to hospital within one hour, stayed three weeks, wonderful care.

2. Just before Xmas......husband very ill, racing heart, Salud.....hospital, good care AND after care..............controlled now.

3. Lump.......salud Wednesday, Peruvion doctor as own doctor ill................scan Tuesday.

Under qualified or not.....................................no waiting, good treatment.................lets deal in facts here please. 

Karen! With respect that is precisely what I - and PUMA 22 have done.

"The majority of GPs based at local health centres are not fully qualified and would not be allowed to work as General Practitioners in the UK or other European countries.’ – Dr. Roman Jimenez Gil: President Puma 22 Organisation.

Are you questioning the doctor's integrity? British government's officials do not. You, Karen, have talked nothing else but hospitals. Dr Gil talks only of health centres (Docs in Boxes); not hospitals which neither he nor I criticise. Do you know the difference between a hospital and a health centre?

Sir, you are very rude.

Three times I mentioned the SALUD ( Spanish for Health Centre ).

The point I wanted to make is that I would rather have validation BEFORE I shouted my head off.

Enough now.

Dr Gil "alleges" "claims" "believes"

Lets see some solid proof

Just because they there is no response to Puma 22ś comments,  it does not mean they have something to hide

maybe they just dont recognise them....

If Dr Gil needs to ask for proof, he clearly doesn't have any.  So it's supposition, gossip.  Fact: - there is no evidence to support the sensationalist claims.

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Without wishing to interrupt this Estate Agents Reunited Mutual Admiration Society, what we have here then is an ex estate agent spreading gossip under a sensationalist headline for which there is absolutely no independent evidence. Now there's a first

Jek

I do not think this comment was called for unless you have evidence to to prove its wrong

 Hi

Why when someone is trying to improve the situation people just do not believe it and criticize this person?

Just ask using the form available in your health centre the qualification of your doctor.  Most russianas, if not all, and from south america are not qualified. I just want to know how many of the doctors employed by Torrevieja salud are, and that is what I want.  I have seen many mistakes and people coming to puma22 asking for help. I do not say these doctors are bad people, in fact I like most of them, but if they are not qualified, then they should undertake the training to get qualified. This is what happens in Germany, UK, but not in Spain.

If you do not believe me, that is not my problem.  I just try to improve the quality of health we all get and push Spain into Europe.

As for proof, I have proof, but I do not know exactly how many are in this situation and by going to the papers maybe this situation will get better.

I do not get any benefits from exposing myself but I am trying to improve my country

roman 

But generalising does not help anyone, specifics do. "some if not all" does not help confidence in  the doctors of the nationalities you mention that are qualified.

If you have proof of doctors that are not qualified and you are trying to help then publish their names!