money back from Huma

 I don't use Fusters but would be interested in what they have to say.

Any one watch homes from hell on itv tonight.The itv are asking for emails if anything has happened to you .Worth ago especially if we find more info on the real people behind this .Any thoughts

Ya, That was done before and they didnt want to touch ACC with a 40 foot pole.  They barely skimmed over it...naking reference to getting burned in Spain...If you manage to get them going...I'll go on the show...I offered before but as I said...they werent interested.

Les

 I don't use Fusters but would be interested in what they have to say.... Nigela wrote

Basically they were waiting on the decision from the court of Murcia in a similar case of taking the banks to court.

The client lost the case and now we have to wait until next year when the case goes to the higher court of Murcia for the final decision.........

Not good news then.  Any idea why they lost the case?

Afraid not it was a quick email no detail just said a client had lost, as you say major blow to all of us who were holding on to that hope!

So folks what are we going to do about this.  Don't seem  theres  alot we can do.So what are we waiting for  now,  hope that Huma will build or pay up, or does he hope he thinks everyone will give up .Because I don't no about you, but we are just sitting here now waiting for any  news ,but how long will that be .Any views on this or is there someone out there that has someone on the case???

Hi, I have not posted on the site before, however I have been part of this mess since 2004. I had made three stage payments in excess of 100K euro. I transfered to OCC form ACC. I was with Aldea so am fully aware of what has happened.

I employed a new solicitor 18 months ago to go through the process of getting money back from Huma. I had a court date set for April this year. This was stopped by my solicitor when it became apparent that a criminal case was being made against Huma. My solicitor registered an interest in the case with the court and stopped my civil case.

He then looked to see if he could try getting any money back through the banks, they being responsible for the bank guarantees. The two bank guarantees I had had expired. I have one payment with no guarantee.

To cut to the point, I have just had it confirmed by my solicitor that one of the banks has paid the bank guarantee to my solicitor and he has sent me a cheque. This was not cheap! it has cost 5K euros plus the costs of the case against Huma. I am now chasing through my solicitor the other bank guarantee via the courts.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, the next stage I am told could take some time but as far as I am concerned I have some money back that I thought was long gone.

Thats good news you have some back,keep fighting for the rest. We haven't got a bank gaurentee so not so good for us. We will keep fighting for our money or our tarrifa and hope one day Huma will have the decencey to give us what is rightfuly ours .Good luck with the rest and let us no how it goes.

 Has anyone heard any more about the criminal case against HUMA?

homes from hell 26 july...camposol houses cracking and falling down afterb on only 10 years due to wrong building land and foundations, MCC is over the road from here, were huma offered me a transfer from ACC.....thank god i said no to it and the desert rat oasis club.

still waiting for solicitor to action the embargo home to clear my money owed by huma, any one near to a refund?? 

Thanks trudge,

It's not possible to follow all the threads on this site so I am grateful to you for the extra publicity. You will be interested to know that I have recently been told of money lost on three Huma sites. It could very well be that you prompted some action

Almanzora Country Club.   Almeria.      Agent Parador Properties, 15,000,000 €.

Mazarron Country Club.   Murcia                                                            20,000,000

Oasis Thubermax Country Club.   Almeria.                                          15,000,000.

It is probably not the accurate amount lost but it ads to the total figure which I am hoping to publish on my '185 Million' thread this week. (Figure around 600,000,000 €)

Six Hundred Million Euro's on only 19 sites So being very conservative an average of say 3,000,000 per site. Bearing in mind that 'eye on spain' has 4,500 Community sites listed, let's continue to be conservative and say there were only 1,000 unfinished sites throughout Spain. That equates to 3,000,000,000 €. Yes that's three Billion Euros folks.

Of course these figures are not accurate and no more than educated guess work but the Spanish have no official figures either because it is all buried in the bank vaults, and who in authority would dare to suggest that Spain is so corrupt that it would steal three billion Euro's from its UK friends and partners in the EU? It is also worth remembering that Spain has been playing this game for at least the past 50 years. We are not the first generation to have been screwed. Ley 57/68 became law in 1968 after years of complaints by foreign nationals regarding rip offs by developers, agents, lawyers, banks etc.

To add to all this the UK has just given Spain 68.5 billion euro's to keep Spain solvent during the Euro crisis.

On a completely different tack you may also be interested to know that one of the contacts who sent me the figures, won his court case against Huma in early 2010 for 100,000 €. But has not been paid.

Sadly we are conditioned to think that the Spanish 'justice' system is like ours and once you win your case you get your money back, but not so. Here they ignore the court and you have to re apply to get your money, and there is no guarantee that the judge will not over rule the earlier decision and you have to pay all the court fees including your opponents. I'm waiting for someone to tell me I'm wrong.

Thanks for your support.

Regards,

Rambi.

 Hi Jackb.

I'd just like to make a few comments on your post.  

1, MCC is not "just over the road from Camposol" it's alongway down the road.

2, Camposol was built by Grupo Masa and MCC was built by HUMA.

3, There are huge amounts of structural defects on Camposol, this is not the case on MCC.  

We originally bought on ACC in 2004 and after waiting and being messed about like everyone else.  We transfered to MCC and we have had our lovely little bungalow for three years and we have never been happier.  So please don't class Camposol with MCC, they are completly different.  

I have been to MCC and been lied to by Huma, they said 8 years ago that a golf course a supermarket shops bars resturants would be built all homes would have mains electricity and full habitation papers..............all lies...........but if you are happy good luck to you.

 To be honest in hindsight those who transferred from ACC to MCC are the lucky ones - the rest of us have nothing.   There are problems at MCC with the lack of facilities that were promised but if you don't play golf and have a car it probably isn't that much of a problem.   I have stayed at Camposol for a couple of holidays and found nothing wrong with either property.  The problems appear to be on sector C & D - some of the residents told me the main reasons for the problems were that the land was bulldozed and before it was allowed to settle properties were built on the land.  As the land settled and moved some of the properties broke up.  I did understand that some of the people with early problems were rehoused.   The properties on Campersol are prefab properties and are built into the ground on stilts.  This is totally different on MCC where the property construction is more similar to house building in the UK.  I was told (don't know if this is true) but most new properties in Spain are built on stits because if there is an earthquake it allows the house to move without collapsing whilst the standard british built property with foundations would just collapse.

Paulg is quite right in saying that you cant compare Campersol and MCC - the only thing they have in common is they are only a few miles apart.

Having said that I fell it is a slander to Grupo Maso and not to HUMA - lets face it most people who bought on Campersol (thoudands of units) are happy with their houses - most people who bought on ACC have nothing - if you didn't get a BG and didn't transfer to MCC all you can get is a worthless embargo and a large solictor bill.

 Hi Jackb.

You are quite correct that facilities promised by HUMA like shops and golf course have never been built, with regards to mains electricity very few homes are still on generated electricity including myself.  But our president and the community of owners have achieved great things over the last year or so with much hard work and we will soon all be on mains electric.  I believe habitation certificates will eventually be sorted out as well.

Hi Nigela

With regards to Camposol, yes there are lots of happy people there that have had little or no problems with their properties.  I believe that Grupo Masa have gone bust and the local town hall have or are taking control of Camposol to a degree.  My statement regarding structural faults should have read sector D as not all properties are faulty.

Well I know this is a bit random, but where were we when people got offered a transfer to MCC, cause we never got offered one .All we have been offered is an appartment !!!!

 The offer was several years ago - they had a number of bungalows which they couldn't sale and offered them to all (or most if you didn't get offered one) ACC people.  I understand quite a few people took up the offer - I did go round and look at the area and spoke to several ex acc people who appeared quite happy - but still annoyed with HUMA.  We seriously considered buying one but felt they were just to expensive and not what I really wanted - also all the best plots had gone.  From memory HUMA were allowing a 10% discount of the properties.  The bungalows had normal roofs (no roof terrace)  - many of them were mid terrace with very little back garden.  There have been rumors of other offers eg transfer to a tariffa on MCC on an area where no building work has started - the general opinion was that HUMA would allow you to transfer and never build the property.

Nigela

It's interesting that you have heard of people from ACC being offered Tarrifas on MCC, as you rightly say there are plans to build on areas 38,39 and 40 and the planned properties are indeed Tarrifas but there are also plans to build a golf course.... need I say more.

This area of land has no utilities installed and Huma has no money, the only plan can be get monies in advance of any building work commencing, they have failed miserably with the so called Chinese investment and I would urge anyone that has been offered this option at MCC to ensure they do not advance a single cent until they have a property to move into and it has electricity and water connected to mains utilities.

Fact is that won't happen so save any further cost and heartache and stay clear, as Paulg says we are making progress at MCC but are under no illusions that we have to do it ourselves without anything from Huma other than some administrative help and only then when we drag it from him.

Re the comparison with Camposol, the properties at MCC are superbly built, that is a credit to the developer, Camposol on the other hand has properties that are thrown together, no fault of the owners who have been hoodwinked by an unscrupulous developer who flaunted lots of building regulations and ended up with some homes and many roads that are literally collapsing, the town hall intervention is a shallow one as they have no funds to complete Camposol and sooner or later Camposol will have to recognise, as we have, that the only way forward is by their own efforts AND funds. 

Barry

Interesting that HUMA have never been in contact with us, we have never been offered anything and we are now 7 years down the line.