IST ELECTRICITY BILLS

Our A/C stopped blowing cold air late last summer, we paid to get someone out and re-gas it rather than sufffer the hassle of trying to get the developer to do anything......over again easter tuesday for a week,  sorry we'll miss the bbq.

Phil and Jo

Thought Lynn's tipple was white wine.  I (Paul) personally haven't had a drink for nearly 7 weeks.

See you next Friday/Saturday.

Paul & Bridget.

Hi ALL

We arrive mid next week ,i am going tp take a serious look at vwhat as been done since we left mid Feb,i do not think i will see much improvement on anything.How the hell are they going to sell apartments if they do not finish the basic (first immpression look ) first.We are still happy that we boughy in to this complex but it is getting a real pain in the fxxxxxx backend getting any work done.As for the air con if it doesnt work next time i will arrange for my own engineer to fix it.any body with me i will sort theres out as well .We have had a good run on the free electric especially those that have been there long term or those that have rented out.We are in this for the long haul and jesus it will be,enjoy the place and we will  see all those out over the next few weeks and have a good laugh Cryyyyyyyyyyyyyy only joking.

See you all soon Ken Lynn full of stella and scotch

Lets not forget that the developers have the majority vote and are likely to for some time.  We are happy not to pay a management fee for as long as we can.  Is the development in that bad a state?  Not seen too many complaints on this forum.  It would be nice if the southern boundary was finished though.

As for the water meters.  At a guess, the water company will only put the meters in to the whole development, in which case Prienesur would have about 400 meters to pay for and then 400 standing charges every month/quarter.

My laywer let it slip and told me told that we are not paying community charges as its more convenient for the developer not charge us few owners and pay bills on an emergency basis as and when jobs come up and they prioritize them. After seeing the whole development i can see why this suites the developer. I think at the AGM we should push for the devloper to charge us and they then as owners of all the empty apartments have to make their contribution to the charges on all those empty apartments this I belive would leave plenty in the kitty to do all the jobs and get the whole development up to scratch. At present we still have blocks with flooded basements ect ect ect. We know this is not what we want anywhere on the devlopment. I may be wrong on this has anyone other thoughts. I also believe we really dont know the reason why we are not being charged for water. I think at the AGM We need a good spanish speaking representative to defend our rights.

I hope you're right. Mind you, I spoke to someone out there recently, who thought that we may be asked to pay from May onwards. Let's see......

Can't see us being asked for service fees/management charges for some time.

Hi all, I've just been having a kitchen table meeting with my other half. He suggests that we all refuse to even consider any service payments until our air conditioning units have been properly fixed. Just putting it out there. My only worry is that we would probably have to bake/freeze for a while before that got done.........and my sympathy does go out to those who just want to get it done externally. Does anyone know when the AGM is scheduled for?  M

Gary & Sandra,

Just to let you know, we kept on at the site office asking about the fantasy TV's!!! and were told that they no longer deal with the issue/delivery of the TV's. I did check with the girl in the site sales office and she showed me a file with my name on the list and explained that the TV's were being issued from the office in Cordoba, and that it would arrive eventually. She then explained that the girl responsible for releasing the TV's would be able to give us more details, and she provided us with the following;

Name; Yaizi Adsura

Telephone No; 0034 957 49 6276

When I spoke to Yaizi, she was very helpfull and explained that they received 4 or 5 TV's every month and she then checked that my name was on the list, this she confirmed and told me to phone again during the next month. She did explain that they were no longer using the site office to distribute the TV's. And 4 weeks ago she phoned to let me know it had arrived, I arranged for my key holder to receive the TV for me and sent Yaizi an email giving my consent to deliver the TV  to his address in Sotogrande. The TV was delivered to his home and he brought it round to our apartment a couple of weeks back.

We are out there in a weeks time, but what the hell I'm going to do with a 42" TV in that small lounge I don't know!!!! 

It will come eventually!!

Regards

Steve and Carol

Block 6

hi all, even though we have left arenal I can tell you we had terrible trouble with water ingress in bedroom 2, coming in through the window frame/sill..got up one morning and paddled through to the kitchen from the master bedroom.. luckily the floor is so far out of level the water stayed in bed 2 / hall area, and the masonary as of when we left was saturated....on a high note our air con worked fine, no probs....sorry.... However if anyone needs a good air con engineer P M me and I can put you in touch with a genuine guy who lives in sabbi who will no doubt be able to sort out your systems...he is a good friend and work mate of mine, the only problem is that he is very busy at the moment but I will ask him if he may be interested tomorrow...leave it with you..andy

Another one to add to the list, our air conditioning has never worked properly and we have to use heaters in the winter to keep the place warm which is not good enough. I have advised the site office of this along with some other faults that have arisen but dont seem to get anywhere- any advise would be appreciated as to how to proceed

As a matter of interest we have just returned yesterday and as we left they had dug a hole next to the pool in front of block 6 and it looked like they were draining it to carry out some works ?.

On another matter has everyone recieved their TV s yet , as we were told delivery would be november then january and now we have been told we need to contact the Cordoba office as the site office no longer deals with the TVs

See you all soon

Gary & Sandra

Worcester park & Duquesa

I have already informed my solicitor of the current issues concerning my apartment.  I suggest that you all do the same, It wont cost you anything and at least it is recorded with a professional .  When I email Priensur I always cc my solicitor in.

As far as the air con is concerned, I don't want it to turn out a case of better the devil you know.  I am under the understanding that our systems are still under guarantee.  Therefore they should be put right under that guarantee.  If mine needs re-gassing then I can only assume that I have a leakage somewhere in my set up, either the piping or it could be an electrical fault.  I would have thought that if there is a leakage there must be some way to test??  Whatever is wrong with the summer approaching I will be eager to get it repaired and my patience will run out with Priensur.  I would like to get my own guy in and then bill Priensur but I think I will have a long wait for the invoice to be paid LOL.  

It may be that we will have to organise our own air con repair man individually, as collectively it may become messy as far as dates and billing goes.    But it is food for thought that we may need a good guy for the future.

You BOSSy Margo never!

Yes I can see your point there Ken. I'm happy to chip in for someone to do all our systems if that's what everyone else decides. We'll probably get a better deal that way.  Wouldn't want to be thought of as organising people and being bossy though, so it's only a suggestion at this stage. M

The trouble with that Margo they would send the same cowboy to probably top them up and not really repair them.Personally I would rather get a reputable guy in who could do them all at the same time.

I wonder if we should all contact our solicitors and say there is a common fault? Might as well try to get the developer to pay for it. Personally, ours has never really worked yet, and that's unacceptable. What do other people think?  M

mine isnt right either.   but when they bring an 'engineer' they say its fine. but having it on 30,   24hrs a day should surely make the place very warm but all it really does is take the chill off in the winter.   seems ok on cold but there again, i have to have it on it on the opposite end of the scale.   i'd be happy for somebody to come and look at them.  Also, it isnt going to be very economically efficient now we are paying for electricity either if it needs to be on constantly to have any effect. 

Suzanne

 There's always the chance not enough gas was installed in the first place if a lot of apartments have the same problem,the only place for gas leaks is at the indoor unit (in our apartment its in the ceiling above the shower/bathroom)or the pipework going up to the outdoor unit on the roof.I'd favour getting your own company to fix this rather than depend on Prienresur's workmen. 

Thanks for that nuetral,All our problems seem to be gas escaping.Maybe they need to do a dye test like they do on cars to find were the leak is.After all it is down to a crap engineer who fitted them.

Ken

 If the air con is installed correctly in the first place there should be no loss of gas hence no need for a service,a lot of the problems on Arenal Golf another prienesur development was with the electrical connection in the out door units located on the roofs of the various blocks were burning out.Is there no company around your development that you could strike a deal with on air con repairs for the whole development?