SARC making stupid unfounded comments

I am fed up with SARC 's defense and protection of the actions of SJ/HdT .We have been treated disgracefully,lied to time and time again ,and cheated of our new lives ,dreams ,hopes and  not to mention lots and lots of money .

Almost a year has passed and SJ have communicated with us once and in some cases not at all .Was this the glorious picture of after sales  and exceptional customer  care and services   they and their sales agents promised us . I think not  ?????? .

I am gob smacked by SARC's support of the this shady outfit  and would  much prefer if SARC defended their position somewhere else.IE on their own little pathetic web site .

Then  people who do not wish be insulted  with lies and false hope time and time again do not have to read SARC comments .

Tonymal you should be ashamed !!!!!!

Why are you siding with the crooks ? What is in it for you? . Your complete defense of SJ/HdT makes no sense at all unless you are in with them in some way  !!!!!! 

I  do despair no one can still truly believe in the dream .What are you all about Tony ? I can understand if your preference was for SADM  to go ahead it was the  only alternative for you  .However  now that it  is unlikely  why do  you still defend the crooks ??????

MM

Unfortunately there are people out there who truly believe that SADM will go ahead Ican introduce you to 2 couples today they haven't even told their children that SJ?HdT are in administration only that there is a delay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how stupid what if something dreadful happens to them the family will be devastated

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER ALBATERA GOLF!!!!!!

Seems it is a distant memory but a painful one for so many people, it never get's a mention now and not for a long time and when mentioned to SJ it is a dirty word that they prefer not to discuss!

SANTA ANA WILL BE THE SAME

FAR

Hi Ja /Magicmeg,

Why do you go on slagging of an organisation trying to get a postiive outcome for all.  As for your sweeping and unsubstaintiated thread heading could you kindly clarify what you are refering to?  I believe it is just another of your sad smear tactics aimed purely at undermining attempts to get SADM underway.

I am sorry but 92% of the purcashers really do need a more positive outcome than you and your small band have been trying to achieve ( for your selves) .

All the best

  I WANT MY HOUSE AND A POSITIVE POUTCOME FOR ALL

Tony R17 18

Tony You will have no influence over whether SADM will go ahead or not .I don,t think it ever will .All you are doing is giving false hope and prolonging the misery for people . Almu etc will just tell you what you want to hear again.They do not have a magic wand nor any  solid plan on how to continue .If you had read any of the report  you would know this. .Perhaps you should put your trip and meeting on hold until you have read  and understood what is in it  and what it means for the future.

Dear Magicmeg,

                       I for one still believe that if you try and do something positive then that is Ffar better than trying to do negative things against the majority. Those with BG's are not thinking of that majority of us who are without if you get your way then I kiss my money goodbye as do the  rest of us. But if we get our way then those with BG's are still OK as they will be able to either action them after the new contracts are drawn up which will be just an admendment to exhisting one or to continue wit purchase. Why not work with the majority and you can still get your BG actioned but also aid the rest of the purchasers

I want my house and hope you all get what you want.

brianmags R4 556

"I for one still believe that if you try and do something positive then that is Ffar better than trying to do negative"
But you also still believe anything the developer tells you, so not much credibility in that observation.

"Those with BG's are not thinking of that majority of us who are without"
Why should they. If those with BGs had sense, why should they risk their money for others. I have asked before. If you had a BG, would you be fighting for yourself, or the sheep?

"if you get your way then I kiss my money goodbye"
So, is that anyone else's problem?

"action them after the new contracts are drawn up"
Are there still idiots walking on this planet.
Who would sign up again on a drastically devalued hut, as opposed to getting their money back?

"Why not work with the majority and you can still get your BG actioned but also aid the rest of the purchasers"
So those who took steps initially to secure their funds, must now feel sorry and risk loss?

Tony

I have read your post with interest and am very interested in the 'facts' that you state.  Where have you got the figure of 92% of purchasers want a positive outcome?  And am I right in presuming that when you state 'positive outcome' that you mean SADM going ahead?

Please clarify

Tracey

So who are the idiots who make upr the 8% who want a negative outcome?
Can only assume that thos 8% don't want their money back or a property.
Would have been a strange community if 8% enjoyed losing their money.

Hi All,

 I am not going to engage in the pointless insults that some feel necessary to to throw around rather than add anything positive to the forum. As for the purchasers percentages:

8% have BG's and therefore have some form of protection.

92% Will have very little chance of getting any meaningfull return of their money in a realistic time frame. This has been gone over so many times & it must be realised that only by SADM going ahead and generating income that those who want their money back can get it. There is no money in HdT & in the present economic climate their assets would be problematic .

SARC supports SADM going ahead to enable those who want their properties to have them & those who want their money back to be able to ( NB; WE WANT A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR ALL).It is unfortunate that some with BGs do not wish this to be the case, just so they have an easier time actioning their BGs.

As no substance has been given to the title of this thread, I think that it shows that it is wrong.

 I WANT MY HOUSE & A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR ALL

Tony R 17 18

Tony

What evidence do you have that even if SADM went ahead, that people would get their money back?  IF SADM went ahead, those that continued to complete their purchase would get a house (in theory) and the little bit of profit (if any at all) would be put into the coffers that would pay all the other creditors.  You have stated may times that purchasers are only ordinary creditors rather than priviledged, If you are sticking to this, then people wanting their money back would still be at the end of a long queue - with little chance of getting anything back.  Plus they would be months, if not years, behind those of us who have already started this process.

Those in a position to have a BG are not having an easy time and are still have to go through this court process to make the banks pay.  Whether SADM goes ahead or not is of little consequence to them personally.

The only thing that is certain is that whatever you want, this whole thing is a great big mess.  For me, I just want this thing over as soon as possible

Tracey

"I am not going to engage in the pointless insults" But you already have by insulting the intelligence of sensible people.

"As for the purchasers percentages:
8% have BG's and therefore have some form of protection."
But they too want a positive outcome. Do you think they wish to lose their money, as you seem happy to do?

"This has been gone over so many times & it must be realised that only by SADM going ahead and generating income" OK, so you are in love with the developer and trust them fully. Thank goodness not everyone is blinkered.

"There is no money in HdT & in the present economic climate their assets would be problematic ." As you have been told over and over again. The penny has dropped?

"SARC supports SADM going ahead" Seems SARC supports SADM fullstop.

"It is unfortunate that some with BGs do not wish this to be the case" I don't think anyone, BG or not, wished to see people lose their money, but there are some nobody can help.

"As no substance has been given to the title of this thread" No substance is something you are well aware of. SARC is based on such.

FIN , Alan and Tracy ,very good points but I fear we are wasting our time .

SARC have rose coloured spectacles welded to their faces , while SJ/HdT are laughing all the way  to their Swiss/off shore bank accounts and other  lucrative interests .

The truth is that SARC can not put up any evidence for the claims they make they just regurgitate SJ/HdT spin and nonsense

I have asked SJ all these  questions before and they have no answers . It  was crucial for HdT to pretend to the court that they had the support of purchasers .SARC  provided them with the false information they required to avoid full bankruptcy .Anyone with any morals would have realised by now that the sooner this shoddy outfit was stopped from doing this to anyone else in the future is a move in the right direction .

Not SARC !!!!! They can not see that to prevent others from falling into the misery we have suffered would be  a result  .They have lost the plot and are only concerned with their own little bubble ,if SADM can go a head we will be OK .I hate to burst your bubble but this company do not deserve to prosper they are their own worst enemy and will never come good .

Come on SARC what will it take for you to wake up and smell the coffee .