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19 Nov 2008 12:00 AM by ogo Star rating in Norway. 125 forum posts Send private message

This was posted this morning on La verdad

Translated as appropriate

The City Council is given a month to 'fix' the draft Springboard Hills
The socialist aldermen at the time it approved the project, alone and on a provisional basis
 The House has approved an interim basis with the reclassification of land
 It seems to be a never-ending. The plenary session of Campos del Rio yesterday approved the dossier to amend the rules subsidiaries city, with the aim of changing the status of the land on which the Group intends to build homes Springboard 2575 and a golf course, which currently are rustic. However, it did so on an interim basis, failing which they are remedied the shortcomings of the project within one month and elevated to the competent organ of the Autonomous Region for final approval.
 This approval was supported by the elected socialists, while the popular voted against. The mayor, Miguel Navarro, blamed the promoter chaired by Antonio Martínez that the project has not come true. "The company we had presented a project with so many errors, with myriad problems that had led to a dead end," he said. He added: "When we have amended the errors, we will re-convene the House for final approval." He also stated his intention to "do everything to follow the guidelines of the autonomous region."
 The spokesman for the PP, Miguel Buendia, criticized that "remains to fill 40% of deficiencies" and considered that "this approval is not adjusted to law and goes against all logic and common sense." He emphasized that six out of fifteen initial shortcomings still lay ahead and asked how it was possible that I would pass on yesterday when it is still unknown what affect this surface modification of the qualification of the soil.


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19 Nov 2008 2:19 PM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

Some further news about the amendments to the project( in laverdad.es)

 

A month. That is the term that the city of Campos del Rio has given the group five Springboard to remedy deficiencies in the project for which aims to build 2,500 homes and a golf course on the site of El Barril. The opening of this term was the main novelty of a plenary session that was described as "pantomime" by the president of Springboard Group, Antonio Martínez.


According to Martinez, the deal that were raised yesterday and which appear in a report dated last-day 10 - the technical architect of the municipality, which Springboard was not aware until Tuesday and that in turn runs counter to other-dated at this time February-signed also by the technical architect, Antonio Plaza, which gave the green light to the project without hesitation.


Martinez said that his company is able to remedy the deficiencies within 30 days of the project, which would lead to the conclusion of a separate House and the referral to the Directorate General of Urban Planning of the project to give free rein to the building, whose preliminary and can be seen at the site of The Barrel.
The defects seen the draft report in the trade center on the descuadre of areas to urbanize, which in turn would force the correct criteria floor. In addition, it also calls for building as the disaffection of a cattle track, the clear definition of the road system, the update of plans and define the removal of architectural barriers in public areas.
Funding to the edge


Group president Springboard said that delays in the approval of the project have already caused you to lose financing that the Fund had committed the Mediterranean for the complex, 'and we had to replace it with another private investor. This funding, however "is at risk due to the constant delays in the project," said Martinez.


Martinez denied that the bank guarantees of buyers has been performed in its entirety and put at 4 million euros for the balance that advances the group still manages to undertake the construction.
The Popular Party was again voted against the adoption and temporary-labeled in the words of its spokesman, Miguel Buendia, the House of absurdity. "We do not understand is that if you do this in one month, two if you count the time limit for public exposure to potential claims, we will have to return to vote. It is against common sense. "


The mayor, the socialist Miguel Navarro, requested the PP cooperation and invited him to join in future meetings to discuss the project with the autonomous region, in addition to describing the project as key to the town of just 2,000 inhabitants, exceeding the rampant crisis.




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19 Nov 2008 3:04 PM by broadfield Star rating. 23 forum posts Send private message

There is also a video of Trampolin President for any Spanish speakers at:-

 

http://www.laverdad.es/murcia/multimedia/videos/515473.html




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19 Nov 2008 6:52 PM by ogo Star rating in Norway. 125 forum posts Send private message

Carefully read the following statement

"We do not understand is that if you do this in one month, two if you count the time limit for public exposure to potential claims, we will have to return to vote. It is against common sense. "

You see - the things we discuss eventually reach the cirkus manesje

We just have to reiterate again and again that the D-day is set and we will - in fact - no doubt - act the 15'th of January.

 Interresting also to see the video showing the amount of people and press present at the meeting. I guess it is a hot issue in Murcia...
 



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19 Nov 2008 8:42 PM by murciabhoy Star rating. 88 forum posts Send private message

Hi OGO

 

I  know for sure that the gt read and monitor this forum. I CANNOT SAY ON HERE HOW I KNOW BUT IT IS A FACT.  I would expect that those with interests involved through the council will know what is happening also. It is somewhat worrying that GT have lost funding and are now depending on private investment. It is equally worrying that they claim this is now under threat due to excessive delays. This is where we have a claim for damages I would suspect especially against the mayor.

 

No matter ours is a rolling bandwagon and we have more pledges of support --keep the pms coming folks

 

 




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20 Nov 2008 12:14 AM by murciabhoy Star rating. 88 forum posts Send private message

 

This is a translation of the latest meeting and replies by GT  presidente Antonio

 

 

 

 

Translation of article.

Trampoline accuses the mayor of prevarication and abuse of power by delaying the complex

The plenary addresses today approved amendments to the urbanization of the group A report says there are five remaining deficiencies in the draft submitted

The Grupo Trampolín yesterday presented a complaint before the court by prevarication, coercion, abuse of power and concealment of documents against the current mayor, the socialist Miguel Navarro, the mayor of Urban Development, Esteban Jimenez, Antonio Plaza, municipal technical architect, and the secretary and the legal adviser to the council Campero.

The complaint comes barely 24 hours before the plenary address today at 19 hours the approval of the amendments to the autonomous community has imposed on the Grupo Trampolín project to build 2,500 homes in the town.

In the statement of claim, the president of Grupo Trampolín, Antonio Martínez, said that this approval will be "with last-minute objections. The origin of these "misgivings" is a report that signs the municipal technical architect of the past days dated November 10, and that sets up five new remedy shortcomings in the draft.

The report contradicted another of February 21 this year, in which Antonio Plaza, said that after the submission of a Territorial Impact Study and other documents are remedied 'recent shortcomings identified by the Directorate General of Urbanism "on urbanization , Located on the site of El Barril.

No communication

 Martinez says that his company has had no communication from the new report until last Thursday, after he published The Truth that the House was to take place today. This lack of communication has left no time to Grupo Trampolínto fill the new gaps, which in turn leaves almost no effect on the plenary session today, and that approval will hesitate to assume that the Directorate General of Urbanism directly reject the project and so again refer to the council.

This situation will cause a further delay for the project, which already collects more than a year of delay after the PP challenge to the mayor and a town councilor, which paralyzed the approval of the amendments in plenary.

Martinez understands that these delays are aware, adding that in a meeting with the mayor and the mayor of Urbanism was told that the final plenary session could take place in December "as long as I withdraw the allegations and complaints filed in court."

Truth was unable yesterday to contrast with the mayor, Miguel Navarro, these allegations, despite several attempts to contact him. Martinez added that since last Friday, at the request of the alderman of Urban Development, has been forbidden contact municipal staff concerning this matter with members of the Grupo Trampolín.  "It is an extortion," Martinez ends.




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20 Nov 2008 9:41 AM by ROUGHDIAMOND Star rating in Bristol. 88 forum posts Send private message

Hi Guys,

 

found the following:-

 

Urbanism undertakes to expedite the project after approval of Springboard
November 20, 2008 | Category: News
 

The director general of the Autonomous Region of Urbanism, Antonio Navarro, said yesterday that once Springboard remedy the deficiencies in its project to build 2,500 homes on the site of El Barril, his department will try to expedite the time to avoid further delays.

Navarro had a meeting yesterday with officials of Springboard, which further reported that since the autonomous region has not been re-issue any report on the possible shortcomings of the project since October last year, so the gaps that still remain blocked the urbanization have been identified by the departments of the City Council.

Navarro believes that once the deficiencies are corrected, his department would receive the document, study it and return it within a period of one month. The director general was in favor of even this month overlap with the one corresponding to the public exhibition for potential claims from neighbors and affected. Navarro did not want to come to appreciate that the municipal architect in a recent report contradicted another signed by him months earlier, although it said the weaknesses identified were not draft, but "answer technical questions perfectly remedied."

The City Council on Tuesday gave a Springboard a month for these corrections, after which it should hold a plenary session and then send the text to the autonomous region.

regards

Brian




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20 Nov 2008 5:37 PM by ogo Star rating in Norway. 125 forum posts Send private message

OK

at least something is happening, I do not know what, but by the wording in the last few articles, I feel that things are going, at least, in the right direction....

I must also give honor to ourselves and GT that has the will to stay and I am sure that if they can pull this one off it shows that they have a long term committment towards building houses.

remember they could have, and they still can stop the project completely by paying back money to the customers and claiming CdR for money, but by NOT doing that it proves something and as I have said before; they prove themselves to be within the legal boundaries! and that can also be called "to be responsible"

HOWEVER

GT have something to learn regarding Public Relations for themselves so I would recommend Grupo Trampolin to employ a person that could deal with Communication towards the public and towards the customers in particular. This person should be able to handle the following things as a minimum

  • Responsible for Information packages to the (non-spanish) customers
  • Handling of complaints and explain difficulties
  • Explaind cultural differences and help us customers to understand why it is so and so
  • etc

just a recommendation

as for today, I am (as you can se) in a positive mindset (again) I just hope it will last

OGO

PS

While we're at it - just found this article as well published 15/11/2008  - Showing that everything is not stopped in Spain (and in particular, the Murcia region)
 

The new Corvera Airport is starting to take shape.  The 300 m² passenger terminal and control tower now have a skeleton structure. What used to be fields of lemon trees, lettuces and artichokes, are now covered in a sea of concrete and building materials.  The 3km long runway has been flattened.  Over 200 builders are working on the Project.  An average 120 lorries full of concrete come in and out of the area daily.

Maybe we can fly directly to corvera Airport by the time the appartments ar finalised - then we save some travelling time Eh Eh

DS



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20 Nov 2008 6:02 PM by rob6578 Star rating. 103 forum posts Send private message

ogo:

You are asuming GT still have available all or indeed any of the money they have received from clients. That, I think, is a very dangerous assumtion.

Maybe I'm cynical but this is a company that has behaved appallingly over the last few years. It has knowingly sold properties that are illegal (it doesn't matter what the reason is), they are still illegal at the moment.

there is still the issue of the Bank guarantees to be sorted out. At the moment all those placed with the Swiss company are worthless & those, according to GT are in the majority. If needed to be claimed, & they are not paid there is nothing that can be done about it, because this company is still not licensed to issue Bank Gurantees in Spain.

Don't give GT too much credit!

This is not the behaviour of a reputable company concerned about their customers.

 

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20 Nov 2008 6:24 PM by jackieinhove Star rating. 120 forum posts Send private message

The bit about the funding being lost is extremely worrying and is the most important perogative in this project going ahead or not now in my opinion. The CAM bank in spain have now denied funding for the development and its promotor due to delays.

The obvious questions are:

Firstly, where is our money??

Secondly, if the news reports are true and Martinez is suing the Council for 40 million Euros, if successfull where will the Council retrieve this money? It will have to go bankrupt, this can happen and probably will if court action is successful, but where does that leave us??

Thirdly, Who are these private investors? they would have to be a pretty big Company to fund this project!!!

Regards

Jackie

 

 


 



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