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I'm not a guy - I'm a lady!
Sunday, May 12, 2013 @ 9:52 AM

Well, maybe 'lady' is stretching it a bit, but I'm certainly of the female persuasion. And no, I haven't been mistaken for a man - I hope I look feminine enough to ensure that never happens. I'm referring to the custom of calling everyone guys - as in 'Are you guys okay?' and other variations of this appalling Americanism which seems to be ingrained into British cuture now.

Even the professional classes are at it. When we asked to see a doctor for a report on Elizabeth's progress - which is very slow, by the way - his first words were 'What can I do for you guys?' I felt like saying 'For a start, you can open your eyes - there are two males here and one female. That means your reference to  'you guys' is inaccurate.' However, as we wanted important information from him, I bit my tongue and ground my teeth. That happens a lot these days, because I seem to hear the loathesome expression at least once every day.

I don't know if it's because I'm a writer or because I'm just plain old fashioned, but I cringe every time I hear this unoriginal expression, and I feel like lifting up my skirts just to prove that I'm not a 'guy.' In fact, if camera phones weren't so ubiquitous, and I wasn't wary of getting next week's washing and my wobbly thighs plastered all over the Internet, I would probably have done that ages ago. However, my kids and grandchildren have enough to put up with from me, without causing them terminal embarrassment, so I suppose I'll just have to suffer in silence.

What about you? Do you object to being a 'guy,' or are you comfortable with that, to borrow another Americanism? Maybe you'd care to share your own pet peeves regarding Americanisms that have found their way across the pond? Oh dear - 'care to share' and 'across the pond' crept into this without my noticing. I'd better stop this right here - I'm becoming Americanised - or should that be spelled with a 'zee?' It must be catching!

 



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eggcup said:
Sunday, May 12, 2013 @ 3:21 PM

What about an experiment, Sandra? Next time you're with a mixture of men and women, say 'Hey, you gals.' They'll think you're a loony. It's the usual sexism of women being conflated with men, but not the other way around. I object more to that than the American element of it. It's like we're being honoured by being roped in with the men, but the men would be insulted if a female expression were applied to them. Of course in Spanish and other languages it's worse, with the habit of addressing 19 ninyos and 1 ninyo as 'ninyos,' because it must take the male form... I do detest sexist grammarian 'rules.'
And good luck with your daughter's progress. It looks like she's out of danger, touch wood (got to say that because I'm superstitious). All the best.


Patricia (Campana) said:
Sunday, May 12, 2013 @ 8:58 PM

Aaaahh, "guys and dolls".

I am not an ardent feminist, and I think that PC has gone totally mad. Now one has to write "s/he" and him/her, just in case one steps on someone's toes. It drives me mad lol. You can't say this, you can't say that, euphemisms rule the day.

I don't particularly like the "you guys" expression, but in Spain at least people I know say "Hola, chicos y chicas". "Hola a todos/as".









Sandra Piddock said:
Sunday, May 12, 2013 @ 9:45 PM

@ Eggcup - I like that idea about 'Hey gals.' I might even try it, when I've had enough vodka.

@ Patricia - I don't go along with the s/he stuff either. I think it's just the thing of 'guys' being a cool expression that gets to me.


Alex said:
Monday, May 13, 2013 @ 12:31 PM

I think you need to relax a bit more and dont get worked up about vagaries of language. All languages adapt and borrow from others - thats how they evolve.


Karen said:
Monday, May 13, 2013 @ 5:52 PM

I hate it when the expression 'guys' is used when both sexes are present. I don't think I'm old fashioned, but I am older. Like you, I've thought about offering to drop my knickers.......

But what's the alternative? 'Guys and Gals' is still an
Americanism, and reminds me of Jimmy Saville, so
definitely not on. 'Ladies and gentlemen' seems very formal, and 'boys and girls' patronising. Although, if the group is all female, I wouldn't object to 'Ladies'.

Suggestions?


Patricia (Campana) said:
Monday, May 13, 2013 @ 9:28 PM

Then of course there's the "Hello folks". Maybe a bit better....?

And we could go all out and say "Hello y'all". LOL.




Matt79 said:
Saturday, April 20, 2019 @ 5:54 PM

I have only recently seen this post. I'm a man and I don't like "guy/guys", I find it very slangy, over familiar and too casual for many situations. I cringe when I hear someone refer to a man as a "guy", it's not the nicest word for a man, what happened to words like "chap", "fellow/fella" or just the simple, straightforward word "man"? Even "bloke" to my ears sounds better than "guy".

When all female groups are addressed as "ladies" though, I sometimes cringe because all male groups aren't often addressed as "gentlemen". I have always believed in linguistic equality and I wonder what's wrong with saying "gentleman/gentlemen", it surely doesn't cost anything to address men as such if women are being called "ladies".








SandrainAlgorfa said:
Wednesday, April 24, 2019 @ 1:49 PM

@Matt79 I'd pretty much forgotten this post. Thanks for your reply - I totally agree with everything you say.


Matt79 said:
Wednesday, July 24, 2019 @ 6:12 PM

Thanks


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