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British pensioners living in sunshine abroad to receive winter fuel payments... costing taxpayers more than £10m
07 December 2008 @ 09:55

British pensioners living overseas should be stopped from raking in millions of pounds in winter fuel payments, campaigners are insisting.

Charities and OAP groups will next week protest that more than £10million a year is being paid to those who have escaped the chilly UK and retired to the sun.

Some 50,000 elderly Britons who have moved permanently abroad are claiming the yearly allowance, worth between £200 and £300, which is supposed to help with winter heating bills.

Even those living on Spain's Costas and in Portugal, Greece and some tropical islands are benefiting from taxpayers' money.

As long as they register for the allowance in Britain, they are entitled to continue claiming if they move to any of 29 European countries or their overseas territories.

Under European law, benefits acquired in one member state must be paid to those who move to another.

Price hikes in the UK mean that pensioners' gas and electricity bills have rocketed in recent months, leaving many elderly people frightened they will not be able to heat their homes this winter.

But in Cyprus, for example, which enjoys more than 300 days of sunshine a year, the cost of living is around 25 per cent cheaper than in the UK. Gas and electricity bills average at least £500 less than in the UK.

On Monday, the Fuel Poverty Advisory Group (FPAG) will tell MPs there should be an urgent review of the payments.

Chairman Derek Lickorish said he will urge the Government to think again when he appears before the Commons energy committee.

'There's no doubt this is a very concerning issue as - we will be urging the Government to review its policy,' he said.

'Many of these countries do not even get cold in the winter months but the payments are automatic.

'And many more of the pensioners receiving them are higher rate taxpayers - the wealthy - and have less need for them.

'It is particularly concerning with the backdrop of the credit crunch and the fact the Government's purse strings are hugely overstretched at the moment.

'Obviously there will always be extreme circumstances in which some pensioners living abroad will be in need of funds for winter fuel but there is an overwhelming case for the payments to be better targeted.' 

Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, called for the payments to be scrapped immediately.

He said: "It's ludicrous that people on the Costa del Sol are getting Winter Fuel payments.  

'These benefits are meant to help hard-up pensioners in Britain get through the winter, so they shouldn't be paid to expats.  

'We are constantly told that the Government's computers know where everyone lives, so it should be simple to set the system not to send cheques abroad.'

Currently all over-60s on a state pension - regardless of their income level - receive winter fuel payments automatically into their bank accounts.

They do not have to prove that they spend that money on fuel bills - leaving expats able to use it for whatever purpose they like.

A spokesman  for the Department of Work and Pensions said: 'Winter fuel payments were introduced to provide reassurance to older people that they can afford to turn up their heating in the winter months without worrying about the cost.

'They are only paid to former UK residents living in the European Economic Area or Switzerland if they qualified for payment before leaving the UK.  

'It is a universal benefit. The majority of people receiving the payment need and appreciate the financial assistance.'

Source: Daily Mail



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44 Comments

Mark said:
07 December 2008 @ 13:25

Does it not get cold on the costas then? I've seen posts of very low overnight temperatures in Spain recently.

Have utility prices in Spain not increased this year as in the UK? My Spanish electricity is more expensive than the equivalent in the UK.

Hmmm, Britain breaking a EU directive? Not something that we usually do, although other member states flout whichever they feel like at the time!!

I'm not over 60 so it doesn't affect me, but the government needs to be careful of alienating what is a growing population of older persons.


Irene&Alan said:
07 December 2008 @ 15:44

I am a recipient of the winter fuel allowance. I've paid full stamp almost all of my working life and whether I live in the UK or on the equator shouldn't make any difference to the level of benefits I receive.
Alternatively I could stay in the UK during my retirement, hide/give away what little money I have and sponge off the state, like so many others who seem to get away with it.
Next Mr Elliott will be planning means-testing to reduce state pensions to people who have private incomes or are considered wealthy.
I'm going to put the soapbox away now.
Irene



Karensun said:
07 December 2008 @ 15:51

The British government seem to have forgotton that majority of the ex pats have paid taxes all thier lives and certainly should not be penalised for organising thier finances so they can choose to live abroad if they want. Not everyone who lives abroad is rolling in cash and that is more true now with the exchange rate as it is.
I do not understand how the government can consider removing benefits which most of us have paid for, yet can hand out benefits to others who have not contributed to the State.


Steve said:
07 December 2008 @ 15:52

It's NOT taxpayer's money - it's MY money! I've paid into the system all of my working life - why shouldn't I draw from it when I retire? Whether I retire to the Costas or to the Outer Hebrides is sod all to do with it or anyone else!
All these do-gooders would do far better aiming at the overpaid fat cats who are constantly letting down the vulnerable children of England and leave the pensioners alone just for once!

Steve.


foxbat said:
07 December 2008 @ 16:35

Where we are in a remote village in the lower Sierra Nevadas the temperatures at night are regularly on a par with those in the UK.
This is a typical Daily Mail piece of propaganda sh*t and as always is full of errors and misquotes. As Steve and others have pointed out its not their money Its mine and yours...and whilst we are on the subject goes nowhere near making up for the effective reduction in the real value of UK pensions brought about by the governments totally crap handling of the Sterling/Euro exchange rate.


More said:
07 December 2008 @ 16:36

BIG debate going on in another large forum ! 40 posts currently.

(£250 safely in our bank).


Steve said:
07 December 2008 @ 19:00

Give us a link, More - we'll give them a blast as well!!


Sandra said:
07 December 2008 @ 22:59

The pair of us worked from the age of 15 until we retired at 55yrs.
We paid our dues as employees and then as self employed employers. Our business was in the licenced trade and so we also acted as unofficial tax collectors of excise duty and VAT.
My husband was out of work for a month in the late 1960s and did receive one weeks unemployment pay. Fortunately we have both been in good health and not had to claim sickness benefit nor have we required the services of the NHS(for anything major) until five years ago when I was diagnosed with a thyroid problem for which I received free medication. We do not have children, so have not used the system in that regard.

And there are thousands like us.

The £250 fuel, £10 Christmas and £60 extra payments that we received this week are a spit in the ocean compared to the taxes and insurance contributions we made over the past 40 years,as is the £10m that is paid to ex-pats when compared to the billions the government wastes on bailing out banks (at the top end) and in paying the £5m mortgage of a so called asylum seelker(she said it was the only place she found suitable!).



Gill said:
07 December 2008 @ 23:37

Sandra, aged 60 now, I got the £250 heating allowance but do I have to claim for other payments you mentioned, please ? (£10 & £60)Do we all get them ? I wasn't aware we got more than the £250.


Sandra said:
07 December 2008 @ 23:57

£125 each winter fuel payment for over 60s.
£10 Christmas bonus for pensioners.I think this is per couple but not sure as husband not yet drawing pension so might be each.
£60 is the one off payment announced, I think, last month. Again not sure if per couple or per person.
I live in the UK and so cannot help you with benefits available to ex-pats.
Why not go to the government website and check up on your benefits?


Gill said:
08 December 2008 @ 12:13

Sandra, I'm also in the UK. We hadn't heard of this extra £60. Will need to go look at website. Just seemed odd we'd not heard, that's all. Thanks.


pilgrim said:
09 December 2008 @ 09:44

I also happen to be an "Elliott". I only hope that I am not even remotely linked to that ridiculous man, via a family tree.

He´s in cuckoo land to think that the Costas, etc. always have warm sunshine throughout the year!

Where do these jobsworthies come from?

I too paid my dues throughout my working life.
Bearing in mind my State pension has now hit a new low, I am very grateful for the extra help and yes, it does go on heating!


foxbat said:
14 December 2008 @ 12:59

Its snowing in Granada province...and where we are its the same temp as in York and Portsmouth...


Rob said:
31 December 2008 @ 13:28

My wife and I like others have moved to live in France which is in the EU, and the last time I checked the U/K was also in the EU, so what's the problem. We still receive the winter fuel payment, although they did try to stop it and gave us a lame brain, ill thought out excuse of why it was stopped. We have since been refunded the amount to our u/k account. I would advise any Ex-pat in the EU who has the WFP payed directly into a UK account to check that it has not been stopped. I forgot to mention that my wife and I jointly payed tax and national insurance in the UK for over 80 years in total, as the vast majority of those living abroad in the EU countries have also done.
Instead of complaining about the £10m to pay WFA to those who live in the EU. What about the £86.8m claimed in expenses on top of the £38.4m in salary and pension payments for the MP's in 1 year. What about us taxpayers paying to keep other countries criminals and terrorists in overcrowded british prisons, not deporting them because our civil rights people think that their governments may treat them too harshly.
Would the complainers prefer that we returned to the UK to enlarge the waiting lists for the health service, and even claiming other allowances we are not entitled living in other EU countries. We could even move to Scotland where our grandchildren can go to university without paying fees, and us older ones can go into care homes free of charge, and now if we need to visit or be visited in hospital that now is also heading towards having free parking, the bulk paid for by the English taxpayer who does not receive these benefits. Although the PM would try and point out how lucky we English are to have Scots MP's voting in our legislation, and having little say outside of England, only footing some of the bill. (This is not meant to be anti Scottish - Welsh - Northern Irish, but just to point out that we English should also stand up for fairness in society).
So to all those that think that by being spiteful by refusing £250.00 pa to those who just happen to live in another EU country. 'Get a grip' and protest at the real wastage. Do you really think that any of these savings would ever reach those in the UK who are in need. Ask the minister how much each year is not claimed by the elderly who are entitled because the system is designed to be too complicated for the honest older person, and a walk in the park for those who commit fraud.
And finally for those that say the WFA is not required in the other EU countries because its always sunny and warm. I award you a G- in your geography exam for the section on European Knowledge. Or perhaps you are getting Europe mixed up with South America?




rapp said:
02 January 2009 @ 10:46

The people who receive the WFA have paid their taxes and are entitled to this allowence. With the fall in the value of the pound against the euro this money help a little whilst these pensioners live out the last days of their lives. I call apon all members of the Taxpayers Allience to kick this nasty spiteful person Matthew Elliot out of his job. The taxpayers Allience should be spending their energy on condeming Brown and his Government for creating the probems the UK have.


semijubilada said:
06 January 2009 @ 14:36

I read this blog today and then noticed an ad in the paper for the increased Christmas Bonus payment from the Pension Service.

"Most of you will have already received £10 of your Christmas Bonus. To help you through the coming winter months we will be making an extra one-off payment of £60. The payment is tax free.
You don't have to do anything, it will be paid automatically. Most people receiving the State Pension will get the payment in January and everyone else who normally receives the Christmas Bonus will be paid in February or March. That includes people getting Pension Credit, Disability Living Allowance, Attendance Allowance, Carer's Allowance and certain other benefits.
If you want to know more visit www.direct.gov.uk



john north said:
12 January 2009 @ 15:52

After working in the UK since 1962 my wife and I decided to move to France. We have paid into the British system for about 35 years each As from 2008 my wife started to receive her UK pension but although we have both invested most of our working life in Britain she has been refused payment. She left the UK just that little bit too soon. Oh to be an asylum seeker or an illegal immigrant. Then treasure island should be the place to head for.

John


Angela said:
20 January 2009 @ 07:58

My husband and I worked for 40 years in the UK and we both paid full NI contributions and taxes. In 40 years my husband only claimed one in week unemployment benefit and never any sick pay. We retired to the mountains in Spain 9 years ago, but becasue we were 60 before we retired we do not get the Winter Fuel Allowance. I can assure many of these complainers in the UK that winters here are just as cold, of not colder, than in the UK.

Give us a break, we are not spongers, we are just trying to make the best of what pensions we have, and that's not much what with the fall in the pound.


keith morris said:
04 February 2009 @ 01:28

i agree with all comments regarding matthew elliot, he should be removed from his post immediatley, we could do without twits like him.


maggy 13 said:
12 February 2009 @ 21:05

we are both in our 60s worked hard all our life paid in / how do pensions manage now the euro droped to the pound in spain we are thinking of coming /


chris pickard said:
17 February 2009 @ 19:26

re re i am in recipt of incap and dla i suffer from epelepsie and have arthritus i get no help with my fuel bills at all i am 45 i know people who are on income support at 17 and do not have a home to run and still get winter fuel payment i can see no sence in this needles to say warmer clims for me


Mrs A.Mouchtis said:
20 April 2009 @ 17:38

My husband and I live part of the year in Greece and part in the UK.All of our working lives were spent in the United Kingdom...over forty years.We paid,and we continue to pay all of the UK taxes both national and local,that persons resident continuously in the UK pay. Far from it being WARMER in Greece in the winter, the cold is much more intense,and much more difficult to deal with,both physically and financially.This is because of the construction of the average building...whether a flat or a house.....and,unlike pensioners in the UK, we do not receive any grants or any other kind of assistance in paying for insulation....the cost of which,like the cost of the heating oil we are obliged to use(Greece has no general supply of natural gas as yet) is absolutely prohibitive. Apart from the fact that it is NOBOD'Y'S ENVIOUS DAMNED BUSINESS what we,who have paid for exactly the same benefits in our old age as ANYONE ELSE(in many cases I suspect..a lot more) get in return...there is the simple fact ...which should be pointed out emphatically to the envious and ignorant...WINTER IN MOST MEDITERRANEAN COUNTRIES IS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT EVERY BIT AS COLD AS IT IS IN THE UK....Sometimes it is very much colder. This campaignof envy should turn its spite(and direct its anger)against NOT its fellow pensioners who just happen to live somewhere else,but against government itself,which refuses a decent state pension to all British pensioners....wherever they happen to live. Shame on their misplaced envy.But then that is one of the reasons why so many people finally want to get out of Britain....because the politics of envy ,of small-minded jealousy and beggar-my neighbourattitudes is rife there. Take your spite where it bbelongs,fellow pensioners....to the top.To the MPs who rob you with expenses claims of 178 thousand pounds a year. To the bankers who have broken Britain's financial back and left even less for pensions and assistance to the elderly. Have you no shame at all,that you would rather direct your spite against people in circumstances no better financially than your own? Are you really not ashamed to be so mean minded>
?


Carole said:
17 May 2009 @ 20:07

Bonjour,
I am sure all you ex pats living in the E.U. who have probably have spent most of your working life paying tax and N.I back in the U/K . I am sure there are many of you like me still paying tax in the U/K.
For some reason Mr Matthew Elliott seems to think we are no longer entitled to the Winter Fuel payment as we live in permanent sunshine all the year round here in France and Spain. Obviously geography and european climate is not one of his strong points or he deliberately set out to deceive the general public with his article.
Any way I am sure all of you would join with me in congratulating him on trying to divert public attention to us as being some sort of state scroungers, and away from the bankers and his political masters misdeeds with taxpayers money. I am sure he will now print a retraction on this site of his misguided views. After all there are many of you like me that have left the bulk of our savings in U/K banks and now our interest has been taken from us and handed over to the likes of Mr Elliott to pay his mortgage. I am in my mid sixties. Who helped us pay our mortgages in the last 2 recessions and when the interest rate went over 10%+ ??


Jane Bispham said:
29 July 2009 @ 16:16

How was this article even published? They should have done their homework before even going to print! The winters, on the costa blanca for example, can be freezing.In fact last year they had snow.
So whoever these " Protestors" are, pleas don't show your ignorance. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.No wonder so many people are leaving the country when we' re surrounded by simple minde morons.


Jane Bispham said:
29 July 2009 @ 16:16

How was this article even published? They should have done their homework before even going to print! The winters, on the costa blanca for example, can be freezing.In fact last year they had snow.
So whoever these " Protestors" are, pleas don't show your ignorance. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.No wonder so many people are leaving the country when we' re surrounded by simple minde morons.


Jeff Simpson said:
04 September 2009 @ 19:52

I live on the costa calida and yes its hot in the summer but very cold in the winter, it has gone down to 0 degrees and is regularly 2-4 degrees at night for several months, some days do not get above 10! We have had the heating on all day and night for nearly a month in February. Last year it snowed for a day. WE DO NOT GET THE WINTER FUEL ALLOWANCE! Many who retired when already out here are told we are not entitled, which is breaking EEC rules! We need it, we worked for 40 years in the UK and are entitled!


annula said:
19 September 2009 @ 15:06

We are English pensioners living on Crete and we have to use our central heating every winter and as there's no gas here we have to use oil which can get very expensive.There is never any mention by any Government official about how much it costs us in electricity for air conditioning and fans which are in constant use all summer,so if,despite the fact we have paid all our working lives into the funds,our heating allowance is stopped,can we then claim a cooling one??


Rosalie Kelly said:
19 September 2009 @ 21:14

I was amazed at reading this blog.

I worked 50 in the UK and always paid my dues. Charities and OAP groups should know better and work to make sure that all pensioners get the allowance.

We have many people here in Spain living on a small pension they cannot get Pension credit, Disability Living Allowance, Attendance Allowance, Carer's Allowance or any other benefit.

Don't begrudge the cold weather payment I bet many of those screaming the loudest do get the other benefits and I wonder how they would feel if they were taken from them.

We do not all have big pensions or own our own houses or have money hidden away for a rainy day.

I think it is time that someone took up the challenge of how pensioners from the UK are treat by the UK Government, how it as interpreted European rulings so that people with disabilities cannot claim what is rightfully theirs. The people in the UK should be ashamed to be associated with such rubbish and ought to know better . I will stop there before I say something that I may regret.

Though I will say we had freezing fog, hailstone and floods last week and its only mid September roll on October rain and windy November and a weeks snow in March and yes I do live on the Costa Del Sol



ellen rose said:
09 January 2010 @ 17:15

i too think it is discrimination that those who retire to spain in their late 50's are not allowed to receive winter fuel allowance, unlike those who were receiving it before they moved abroad, even though they have paid their taxes in uk for many years.
i also think that the ministers responsible for this are appallingly ignorant, especially those who assume heating is not needed in spain.
To those who have written that they are still paying income tax in the uk, even though they live in spain, please be aware:
you should be paying income tax and savings tax on your income and uk bank accounts=its obvious many of you are not! tax on certain categories of income has to be paid in uk, but the income still has to be declared in spain. ring 0044 1512102222 ( uk tax office dealing with ex pat tax)if you don't believe me. the spanish coffers would be overflowing if they were to enforce the tax regulations here!to all those who say they would NEVER go ack to the uk, i would say: do you love spain enough to recognise your tax liability here?


ellen rose said:
09 January 2010 @ 17:19

i too think it is discrimination that those who retire to spain in their late 50's are not allowed to receive winter fuel allowance, unlike those who were receiving it before they moved abroad, even though they have paid their taxes in uk for many years.
i also think that the ministers responsible for this are appallingly ignorant, especially those who assume heating is not needed in spain.
To those who have written that they are still paying income tax in the uk, even though they live in spain, please be aware:
you should be paying income tax and savings tax on your income and uk bank accounts here in spain = its obvious many of you are not! tax on certain categories of income has to be paid in uk, but the income still has to be declared in spain. ring 0044 1512102222 ( uk tax office dealing with ex pat tax)if you don't believe me. the spanish coffers would be overflowing if they were to enforce the tax regulations here!to all those who say they would NEVER go ack to the uk, i would say: do you love spain enough to recognise your tax liability here?


Roberto said:
30 January 2010 @ 11:44

I worked for 41 years paying UK tax and N. Insurance and never ever claimed unemployment benifits. I have been living in Spain for the last 4 years in an inland town called Teruel, which just happens to be one of the coldest places to be in winter.
Did this idiot Elliott obtain his university degree in an amusement centre? ... after making those silly utterances, I'm surprised he's still in a job!


Lee said:
17 February 2010 @ 11:07

At the end of the day Britain is part of the EU or is it???

If people choose to spend there lives in a warmer client then good luck to them the benefit is paid based on age??? Yes!!!!

Then end of!!!!

This reporter is an absolute bufoon until this law is repealed and a new one in is its place then these people are not breaking the law!!!!


Pandita said:
24 February 2010 @ 17:55

You and Yours, BBC Radio 4's consumer programme is looking for an expat who can come on the show next week to defend the need for expats to receive their winter fuel allowance.

If anyone is interested please call Pandita on 0044 207 765 1923. Thanks.


Terry Morris said:
09 March 2010 @ 18:02

Well now. Woke up this morning to snow all over my car and the hills around us. Hmmmm never gets cold in Spain. And do we need the fuel allowance? Our income has dropped 30% or more since 2007 due to exchange rates etc.

Seems like the politics of envy to me. We worked hard, paid our dues, didn't go to the pub every night and were never on benefits. What's the problem? Oh yes, I get it. We saved enough to live somewhere outside UK. Tut tut.

As far as some people not needing the allowance, what about the well off claiming child allowance . When we had a young family I supported the allowance not being paid to people earning over a certain amount, including me. But times change and when you get older you lose the ability to be gainfully employed and need the same help as other retirees no matter where you live.

Easy targets us elderly and infirm.


Terry Morris said:
09 March 2010 @ 18:02

Well now. Woke up this morning to snow all over my car and the hills around us. Hmmmm never gets cold in Spain. And do we need the fuel allowance? Our income has dropped 30% or more since 2007 due to exchange rates etc.

Seems like the politics of envy to me. We worked hard, paid our dues, didn't go to the pub every night and were never on benefits. What's the problem? Oh yes, I get it. We saved enough to live somewhere outside UK. Tut tut.

As far as some people not needing the allowance, what about the well off claiming child allowance . When we had a young family I supported the allowance not being paid to people earning over a certain amount, including me. But times change and when you get older you lose the ability to be gainfully employed and need the same help as other retirees no matter where you live.

Easy targets us elderly and infirm.


maureen price said:
22 April 2010 @ 19:29

i get fed up with people maligning pensioners who have moved abroad. why not target the immigants who are allowed benefits as soon as they step in england and never paid a penny nor worked in order to get this. my husband and i worked all our life, paid our taxes and never had anything from thestate.
if i was in uk now i could claim attendance allowance but instead i am paying for aids in my house and for a person to help me with my housework, this is allowing another uk resident having my share of this money. dont target the elderly who have their dignity and who have looked after their elderly parents till death without asking the state for money to look after them. will those so call do gooders who want to take the heating allowance off us do the same for their parents. also my heating during december january february and march has been on 14 hours a day due to our weather this year in spain and my bills havebeen higher than my friends in the uk. get your facts right before you open your mouths.


maureen price said:
22 April 2010 @ 19:31

i get fed up with people maligning pensioners who have moved abroad. why not target the immigants who are allowed benefits as soon as they step in england and never paid a penny nor worked in order to get this. my husband and i worked all our life, paid our taxes and never had anything from thestate.
if i was in uk now i could claim attendance allowance but instead i am paying for aids in my house and for a person to help me with my housework, this is allowing another uk resident having my share of this money. dont target the elderly who have their dignity and who have looked after their elderly parents till death without asking the state for money to look after them. will those so call do gooders who want to take the heating allowance off us do the same for their parents. also my heating during december january february and march has been on 14 hours a day due to our weather this year in spain and my bills havebeen higher than my friends in the uk. get your facts right before you open your mouths.


maureen price said:
22 April 2010 @ 19:31

i get fed up with people maligning pensioners who have moved abroad. why not target the immigants who are allowed benefits as soon as they step in england and never paid a penny nor worked in order to get this. my husband and i worked all our life, paid our taxes and never had anything from thestate.
if i was in uk now i could claim attendance allowance but instead i am paying for aids in my house and for a person to help me with my housework, this is allowing another uk resident having my share of this money. dont target the elderly who have their dignity and who have looked after their elderly parents till death without asking the state for money to look after them. will those so call do gooders who want to take the heating allowance off us do the same for their parents. also my heating during december january february and march has been on 14 hours a day due to our weather this year in spain and my bills havebeen higher than my friends in the uk. get your facts right before you open your mouths.


Elaine Wilks said:
15 October 2010 @ 09:38

My husband and i have retired to the Costa Blanca our electricity & gas bills are much higher than in England, we both worked full time and paid in contributions for 46 years and 36 years respectively, we are still paying tax in England on our pensions received at the rate of 400 + annually, and this is only on our private pensions, this will go up to 800+ annually when the state pension kicks in. If the 250 is stoped we will change over and pay tax in Spain. why give the UK government more money when they obviously begrudge a measly 250 a year for working hard and paying tax and insurance for all these years.


Dave Coppard said:
05 June 2011 @ 15:26



Kindest Regards

Dave Coppard



Pauline Sheridan said:
11 August 2011 @ 13:28

We live in Spain and as others have commented we paid into the system all our lives, what they don't understand is if you were not getting the winter allowance when you leave Britain you will never receive it. We left just before we were 60 so don't get it and never will. It freezes here in the winter on the Costa Blanca, and can last untill April. Our electricity is dearer than Britian. Where do these people get their information from that it is cheaper to live abroad, it is not!


P Rakash said:
06 September 2011 @ 17:25

I know many indian pensioners over 60 who annually leave the UK for approx 3 months in the winter and their claim for pension credit and state pension is not affected. In allowance of winter fuel payments of £300 is also automatically given to them. It is ludicrous they miss the harsh winter and get paid approx £2000 of taxpayers money each year on their return to the UK. Then with this saving they save and scrimp all year round and buy foreign assets which are undeclared for their children and relatives abroad. They do this for many many years, ripping the state off by their status of 'poor pensioners'. This needs to be stopped!!!


P Rakash said:
06 September 2011 @ 17:32

I know many indian pensioners over 60 who annually leave the UK for approx 3 months in the winter and their claim for pension credit and state pension is not affected. In allowance of winter fuel payments of £300 is also automatically given to them. It is ludicrous they miss the harsh winter and get paid approx £2000 of taxpayers money each year on their return to the UK. Then with this saving they save and scrimp all year round and buy foreign assets which are undeclared for their children and relatives abroad. They do this for many many years, ripping the state off by their status of 'poor pensioners'. This needs to be stopped!!! Also some work on the side all year round and if questioned they pretend to say we don't know the law in this country and 'no speak english' and hide and hope to get away with it due to their age!!!!


FMacPhee said:
08 February 2012 @ 16:15

Today the senior community faces a number of challenges to a happy and worry-free retirement. Pensioners and retirees have a feeling of helplessness and abandonment. They feel they have no control over their plight as companies and governments find this segment of our society easy pickings. Worries about keeping their homes, skyrocketing health costs and the ever increasing cost of food have many wondering what will happen to them as they age. Seniors need help in finding ways to alleviate these burdens. At this stage, they deserve a break on the high cost of living and a peaceful way of life.


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