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UK v Spain: I know where I prefer to be in hospital
18 November 2011 @ 19:54
MY CLOSE SHAVE IN A
HOSPITAL TO DIE FOR!
I WAS asleep when a chink of light in the doorway alerted me. A man had entered Room 114.
A 6am intruder! The last thing I wanted on top of the angina attack that had put me in Torrevieja Hospital for four days and counting. Particularly with only a flimsy regulation-blue hospital gown for protection.
As I lay on the bed, squinting blearily into the darkness, the glint of metal told me the shadowy silhouette was on a business call.
He sat down on the bed - and I realised he was brandishing two razors in his right hand.
My worst fears were confirmed. I was about to be shaved of my last vestige of dignity…by, of all people, the camp male nurse I had silently dubbed Dapper Diego.
I hadn’t the heart to protest as DD lifted my gown and, humming quietly, went to work. Donna’s pube train was at the sharp end of a potential disaster - and my only thought was that Diego might not mind the gap.
Five minutes later, the plucked chicken with the dicky ticker was ready for her heart-to-heart with the stentist later in the day.
More than 12 hours later as it happens. But of course, Torrevieja Hospital, like just about everyone in Spain, does everything manana.
Anyway, I eventually ended up at the mercy of the guy whose job is to ping balloons into clogged up coronary channels. It sounds like a children’s party – and it might as well have been from the way the medical team laughed and joked their way through the entire procedure.
There was I, lying there with a catheter invading half my body via a gaping hole in my femoral artery, and they were all cackling away in Spanish like kids playing doctors with a doll. 
I certainly didn’t find it funny…though their trivialisation of it all did admittedly ease my own fears that my life was in danger.
Stentist? It was more like a dentist working upside down after administering laughing gas to himself and his staff.
That all happened last Wednesday – nine days ago. And you’ve only heard a fraction of the story.
The previous Saturday, my house guest Mike had to perform the old 112 and call the emergency services when I suffered an angina attack. Minutes later, I was in the back of an ambulance roaring down the N332 at 140kph with Vettel Mickey screeching behind in his rented Ford Ka.
I was about to receive proof – if any was needed – that the Spanish health service leaves the NHS standing. Even if it does seem to work at half the speed.
Torrevieja Hospital is a magnificent building with magnificent facilities …a credit to Spanish medicine in the 21st century.
That was evident from the moment I set foot – or rather wheels – on the premises.
I was whisked through the emergency admission process in a matter of minutes…with a slight hiccup when doctors discovered the handful of different medications Mike had grabbed from my bedroom drawer weren’t mine!
Assessed and then herded into a 32-bed observation ward, I shared the following eight hours with an array of characters of various nationalities in various states of discomfort.
Only an obligatory bland, salt-free apology for lunch eased the boredom. Plus the hope that I would be discharged later that day.
I suspect that is what the doctors intended because I was the only patient in the ward not to receive an evening meal.
Mind you, that changed big-time when the nurses got word of the poor starving waif in bed C-21.
They hunted around and unwittingly brought me a magnificent fully-flavoured meal that had clearly been intended for a non-coronary patient. Salt of the earth, those nurses!
For the next five days, home was a comfortable, modern en suite room of my own. And for me, Torrevieja is right up there with any British private hospital - with the exception, of course, that you don’t pay five-star hotel prices.
You get a much better view, too. Tourists would pay good money for the glorious panorama from Room 114 across the salt lake. Picture postcard stuff, particularly at night when the glow of lights on the far shore flickered on the water.
And in Dr Piotr Chochowski, I had the most caring of cardiologists. I’ve lots more to say - but the main thing this week is that I’m not yet ready for my *Golden Leaves funeral plan.
And since the whole episode did not cost me a cent, I still have considerably more money than stents.
Published in The Courier (www.thecourier.es) 18-11-2011
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11 Comments
Steve Hall said:
19 November 2011 @ 03:05
I am a HUGE fan of the Spanish National Health Service and (sadly) have had much use of it for the past 10 years. I have had universally excellent treatment and the service here is one of the main reasons I don't consider moving on.
Adavies said:
19 November 2011 @ 09:03
Afraid that your comparison with the UK system shows that you may have been in Spain too long - I can assure you that now in the UK those eight hours you were with an array of characters - in the UK you would probably have had your stent inserted and back on the ward safe in the knowledge that danger had passed. New standards exist and although you had five star surroundings - for someone that ill who cares where you are as long as you have the most uptodate prompt treatment. Ps you would probably have been home within 2days as well!
Antony Elliott said:
19 November 2011 @ 09:58
Although I am as guilty as all those who compare the UK with Spain, it is important to also compare the entire lifestyle of each country. I am sure that Adavies is correct re. improved services in the UK health system but how nice to be accepted without prejudice, because you are an EEC member! I am very proud and grateful, yes grateful, that I am allowed to live in this beautiful country with its rugged grandeur!! I emigrated here mainly for health reasons at first and have received constant superb medical care. Adavies, there will never be a time for me to be in Spain too long!!!
derek55 said:
19 November 2011 @ 10:43
Firstly I am glad you fit and well again.
In the 21st century we should expect to receive a quality health service where ever we live. I am no advocate for the NHS but expats seem to dwell on the negatives not just of the health service but the UK as a whole. England as a massive population given its size in comparison to Spain, so the demands placed on its NHS is huge. But emergency care is treated with urgency, it’s the time spent in hospital after surgery that’s the danger. MRSA, C.Difficile. are the greatest problem.
In Spain the hospitals on the coast all mostly all built in the last twenty years or so, are modern by UK standards, and modern comfortable surroundings are proven to make you feel better and less stressed. Private hospitals have this philosophy but the treatment is the same
Donna, am I right in saying it is the “hotel services” in Spain leave it up to your family to provide for you and did the food improve.
peter of Burjulu said:
19 November 2011 @ 12:23
unfortunately the spanish system did not work at all for me. a retinal tear was not regognised as urgent and two weeks later had a detatched retina. had it dignosed privately but it all took weeks to get an appointment at almeria. on arrival the did my paperwork then said cannot do it untill the next week. i went private the same day in alicante after a mad dash up the motorway. the whole process seemed to be another brit getting a freebee. my interpreter was amazed at the offhand attitude of one doctor. it seems that 'if it doesnot hurt, its not an emergency' i am now partially blind in one eye!
tricia said:
19 November 2011 @ 13:02
I read this site a lot. I live in the UK and have spent time in Spain recently. I think its unavoidable to make comparisons with the UK when living abroad, if for no other reason than to feel confident that the right decision was made to leave the UK. But I think I know which country I would rather be in if I have a life threatening illness, the UK. We have down Victorian hospital buildings yes, but we do have the worlds experts here in the fields of cancer. I received my treatment at the Royal Marsden in Surrey for a very rare cancer and had I been in Spain or any other european country I would not have survived, simple as that. The Marsden had only seen 6 previous cases, and they are listed in the top 10 cancer hospitals in the entire world. We have some of the best doctors and scientists here in the UK. And if you need an MRI or investigative treatment often you now attend at a private hospital under the NHS. Another point which is of concern, does Spain have any facilities for AltzheimerParkinson/Motor Neuron and many other debilitating illnesses. Not necessarily live-in care, but respite care even? I don't think we should be enamoured by glossy buildings, we need to look at the survival rate of life threatening illnesses, the proof is in that pudding. If I moved to Spain as a pensioner I would remain on the system here 100% and rent a property in Spain. I wouldn't consider severing my ties to the system here, even with all its imperfections.
Chris said:
19 November 2011 @ 17:13
Tricia, do you have stistics of how Spain compares? I agree with you that you need to look beyond fancy buildings. And yes having experienced the public system myself I agree everything is Mana. Same operation in Germany, in at 8am out by noon. Spain in by 11 out by 8pm, most of that time was spent in a stair well trying to find someone who new what they were doing
Ray said:
19 November 2011 @ 17:41
I was taken to the A and E in St.Juan Hospital, Alicante. after complaining of a pain in the heart region. I was wheeled into a cubicle where a doctor 'checked me out', I was attended by a nurse who accompanied me for x.rays, I was given an ECG,my blood pressure checked, and my blood sample analysed, and results given. I was diagnosed with angina, given medication and released home all within 1 hour!! 3 days later I was checked again by a specialist, and now have a stent which seems to have cured my discomfort. I appreciate that the UK might have improved, but still think I am lucky to have been checked out in Spain. I also think their attutude toward elderly people is better (having experienced both UK and now Spain) I am 72 yrs old.
Donna Gee said:
19 November 2011 @ 19:32
I'm fascinated by the differing reactions to this article, which is only half of the story. I intend to write a follow-up article next week on the NEGATIVES of my time in Room 114. I'll just say that it was far from perfect. Meanwhile, I would very much like to publish some of your comments in The Courier, the weekly newspaper I edit in the southern Costa Blanca. I am sure the whole scenario will spark a very interesting debate. If anyone has any objection, please email me at donna@thecourier.es and I will see their comment remains only on this blog. It would also help greatly to know which town and country the comments come from.
tricia said:
19 November 2011 @ 21:31
hi Chris, no sorry i don't have any real stats, just rely on my own and others experiences. This is a very interesting blog and i have no objections myself to Donna using anything I say on here. I wonder about the shiny hospitals in Spain as they do look impressive, but its more important to look beneath the surface of any packaging. I am very interested to know about medical treatment in Spain and their expertise and facilities for the elderly, especially compared to the UK. One disadvantage I see straight away is the language problem in Spain and how this could effect the efficacy of treatment. But I do realise its a bit disrespectful to expect hospital staff to speak English. I live in Surrey, UK and this particular region is well served by the National Health system with minimal restrictions on budgets, but I am not ignorant to believe this to be the case across the UK. I would like to spend more time in Spain, but as I get older I am doubtful about embarking upon this as I am not so confident about the Spanish health system. Perhaps more of you could enlighten me. For example what would a partner of someone do if living in Spain and said partner was diagnosed with Altzheimers. If said person progressed to stage 3 and the partner could no longer cope, is there facilities in place to deal with this? I remember my poor mum when my dad got so ill with this particular disease and she could no longer cope, and in his final stages of the illness he was looked after in a care home situation with apartments above, so mum could at least see him everyday. I still believe though that our NHS takes some beating, even with all its imperfections throughout the UK. Again, especially in the realms of life threatening illnesses. It will be interesting to see if Spain can sustain its current medical standards through this financial crisis, that seems to be rapidly unfolding. Our system is also being squeezed but I do not think we are in such a dire situation as Spain. As I say, this is an interesting debate.
beebeetay said:
23 November 2011 @ 17:00
Whereas I do try my best to not knock the NHS, two weeks ago my husband had a kidney stone and being an ex nurse I was con vinced that this was the case and rang the out of hours surgery. After an hour of trying to get through all I could connect to was NHS direct and had someone reading from a script decide that a nurse would call back within the hour. I explained that I was an ex nurse and that I just wanted to make an appointment at the out of hours surgery so that a doctor could access him, but that it would be quicker for me to just to take him to A&E due to the time it was taking me to speak to a medic. Eventually 45 minutes later a nurse rang back who decided that an ambulance would be required.This ambulance took three hours to arrive even though we live just off a main road in a major city in the UK, and every time I called to state that I would take him to A&E myself and to cancel the ambulance I was advised to wait. We also have a place in Spain and have found their medicinal care very good, when my friend became ill on a flight to Spain they were waiting with an ambulance for her flight to land, and she received first class care through out her illness. I suppose that I am trying to say that years ago I would never have wanted to be ill in Spain but standards have really improved, and they are on an equal if not excel in several areas compared to the NHS.
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